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Old 08-12-2003, 11:16 PM   #1
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Question Mandrake Cooker Downloads ?


Do you have to be a member to download cooker files.

I've found a place where all the files are at but it wants me to log in.
So I goto 'mandrakeclub.com' to register it look as the only way they allow registering for members is to pay. ...I hope this isn't the case.

Can someone please verify. And if there is backdoor for ftp or something please let me know.


Thanks in advance.
 
Old 08-13-2003, 02:54 AM   #2
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no, just go to http://fr2.rpmfind.net or similar
 
Old 08-13-2003, 02:58 PM   #3
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AFAIK the Cooker releases are the latest versions of apps tested and tweaked for Mandrake, and then released to the Club members. A nice way to earn money and provide support for paying customers, before the new distro version ships out.
 
Old 08-13-2003, 07:29 PM   #4
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Hmmmm.

That makes sense.

I'll get over it though.

Thanks,
 
Old 08-15-2003, 08:49 PM   #5
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Ok,
Finally, after 2 wks of bs and confusion/frustration...

I don't really know what happened here. But I've got this working now.

This is all that I did.
I went to http://gaim.sourceforge.net and downloaded gaim-0.67 tar.gz to my home directory.
Logged into the command line as root into the /hom/<usre> directory

tar -zxvf <gaim file.tar.gz>
Cd'ed into the gaim-0.67 directory.
Then ./configure (which actually ran without errors this time) then "make" (which took acoulple of minutes, but ran with out errors), then "make install".
To start gaim I had to goto /usr/local/bin/ and then once there typed ./gaim

The client started up and and all I had to do was put in the protocol that I was using (yahoo) my logon email name and password and away I went. Works flawlessly..

RPM's SUCK....peepee
And I don't know what the difference was between the gaim 0.66.tar.gz and gaim 0.67.tar.gz, but obviously there was something wrong.

I didn't need any GTK or GLIB...all of this was already installed.

I'm definitely switching to Gentoo Linux after I get a little familar with linux in general. This will have you compile everything from the source starting from the Kernel to what apps you want to install. Then I can allways be sure that (if the source code isn't screwed) that when I intall from source that it's platform independent and seems to put/make files/directories in a uniform standard. It seems that rpms deviate from this compared to installing from the source..

Hope this helps.
 
Old 08-15-2003, 11:23 PM   #6
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Actually, When you compile something on your system like with Gentoo, its optimized FOR your system, and many times, the binaries are NOT very portable.

But if you want something with better package management, more power to you. There are many choices, and if you're really into source based distros, check out Source Mage, its also popular, and you may like it.
 
Old 08-15-2003, 11:40 PM   #7
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Hi Contrasutra,

What do you mean when you say:

> and many times, the binaries are NOT very portable?

Are you talking about rpm's or the source.tar.gz's?

Thanks,
 
Old 08-15-2003, 11:54 PM   #8
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source tar.gzs. When you compile the program yourself, generally you use archetecture specific flags (-march=pentium4),so they dont run as well on other machines if you were to move them.

Most package builders use generic flags (-march=i386) so they run on more systems, hence, more portable.
 
Old 08-16-2003, 12:26 AM   #9
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All you have to do to is go to -

http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/urpmiweb.php

and select "cooker" in the system section. Then open up a terminal, su to root, and enter the commands that the web site gives you. Like this -

"urpmi.addmedia main ftp://csociety-ftp.ecn.purdue.edu/pu.../Mandrake/RPMS with ../base/hdlist.cz"

It'll change your urpmi/rpmdrake sources to the cooker ones and then you can fire up rpmdrake and install all the latest and greatest cooker packages graphically, or use "urpmi gaim" at the terminal. Of course this could end up taking a lot of time to get all the dependencies sorted out if you are on a dial-up connection, and you'll have to download almost all the packages you want to install as your install CDs are no longer your urpmi sources. Also you may be able to switch back to using your discs as your urpmi sources if you haven't changed your system too dramatically with cooker.

Last edited by Read_Icculus; 08-16-2003 at 12:31 AM.
 
Old 08-16-2003, 01:38 AM   #10
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Thanks,

I've got this sorted out now read_Icculus.

Contrasutra,
You said:
>source tar.gzs. When you compile the program yourself, generally you use archetecture specific flags (-march=pentium4),so they dont run as well on other machines if you were to move them.

But in a sense this is my point so to say. I'm not worried about moving this build to a different machine. I'm a 'at home usr' with 1 linux box in house.

I don't want to have to worry about MDK or RedHat trying to make a rpm specific bulid for there distro and my pc architecture, when I can just go and compile from the source and its platform independent. I've spent 2 months worth of frustration with RPM's and trying to install small little apps.

I know allot of the trouble is because I'm new to this but this has been more than rediculious. Im not new to networking or computing in general. I'm however new to linux which I find to be filled with never ending poistive, possiblites. At this point, as a single user/pc, it only makes sense to compile everything from the ground up.

Thats what I'm getting a sense of anyway. In a networking environment or the head of an I.S. department with a 100 linux boxes to support, then I could see why you would want rpm's....

Thanks Contrasutra
 
  


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