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Old 02-14-2003, 08:49 PM   #1
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Mandrake and Redhat 8 on same drive


I have REdHat 8.0 installed on a second hard drive, a Quantum Bigfoot as master and a CDROM as slave. My main HD has Windows XP, 40 GB.
I have GRUB installed, and get the screen to choose which to use.
My questions:
1) I also bought Mandrake 9.0. Tried to install it but mouse did the funky thing in the upper left corner. WHat's up with that?
2) I'd like to try Mandrake, but not lose RedHat. I tried to install Mandrake on RedHat's HD, could not figure out how to get another partition. The present one has a 100 mb boot partition, a 6.5 G partition, and then a 75 mb swap. I am a newbie, so be gentle.
3) Is there any advantage to using Mandrake over RedHat?
Thanks
 
Old 02-14-2003, 09:06 PM   #2
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How much room do you have on your hard drives?

Post the output of these commands:
fdisk /dev/hda -l
fdisk /dev/hdc -l
df -h

Change the c in /dev/hdc to the proper drive in case I misread your post.

Last edited by fancypiper; 02-14-2003 at 09:14 PM.
 
Old 02-14-2003, 10:11 PM   #3
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Re: Mandrake and Redhat 8 on same drive

Quote:
Originally posted by undershepherd
I have REdHat 8.0 installed on a second hard drive, a Quantum Bigfoot as master and a CDROM as slave. My main HD has Windows XP, 40 GB.
I have GRUB installed, and get the screen to choose which to use.
My questions:
1) I also bought Mandrake 9.0. Tried to install it but mouse did the funky thing in the upper left corner. WHat's up with that?
Is it a USB Mouse? You might be getting that because your mouse isn't the "standard" ps/2 mouse. Is this happening before the mouse config portion of the install? If not, once you get to that part, try different protocols, see if you can find the one that works best with your mouse (if at all).
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2) I'd like to try Mandrake, but not lose RedHat. I tried to install Mandrake on RedHat's HD, could not figure out how to get another partition. The present one has a 100 mb boot partition, a 6.5 G partition, and then a 75 mb swap. I am a newbie, so be gentle.
Yeah, like fancypiper said, you'll need space to do that. Although, instead of fdisk (which reports total space) I think we should rather ask to see how much space is currently being used (or maybe fancypiper is thinking the drive is not completely partitioned up and formatted?)? So, can you also post what you get from df -h AFTER the partitions are mounted.
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3) Is there any advantage to using Mandrake over RedHat?
Thanks
Depends on who you ask. There are probably quite a few threads on this on every linux board around. It's alot of the time personal preference, "loyalty" to the distro, and other non-objective points made when comparing the 2. However, I am a Mandrake guy, so I will say yes, there are some major benefits. The tools Mandrake has are much easier to use, satisfy dependencies OOB (Out of the Box), and just has a cleaner look to it. It's much friendlier on the n00b, and has just about every decent feature RH does plus the Mandrake specific features. Also, I am a huge fan of LILO over GRUB, and Mandrake by default uses Lilo, where RH uses Grub. So now that I've opened that fat can of worms, you can decide for yourself

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Old 02-14-2003, 10:28 PM   #4
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Re: Re: Mandrake and Redhat 8 on same drive

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Originally posted by MasterC
Yeah, like fancypiper said, you'll need space to do that. Although, instead of fdisk (which reports total space) I think we should rather ask to see how much space is currently being used (or maybe fancypiper is thinking the drive is not completely partitioned up and formatted?)? So, can you also post what you get from df -h AFTER the partitions are mounted.
fdisk -l gives the partition table:
Code:
[phil@fancypiper phil]$ su -
Password: 
[root@fancypiper root]# fdisk /dev/hda -l

Disk /dev/hda: 255 heads, 63 sectors, 4865 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 bytes

   Device Boot    Start       End    Blocks   Id  System
/dev/hda1   *         1      1244   9988933+   c  Win95 FAT32 (LBA)
/dev/hda2          1244      1881   5120167+  83  Linux
/dev/hda3          1882      2519   5124735   83  Linux
/dev/hda4          2520      4865  18844245    5  Extended
/dev/hda5          2520      2532    104391   83  Linux
/dev/hda6          2533      2549    136521   82  Linux swap
/dev/hda7          2550      3187   5124703+  83  Linux
/dev/hda8          3188      3825   5124703+  83  Linux
/dev/hda9          3826      4463   5124703+  83  Linux
/dev/hda10         4464      4865   3229033+  83  Linux
[root@fancypiper root]#
df -h is to find out space
Code:
[root@fancypiper root]# df -h
Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/hda7             4.9G  2.0G  2.9G  40% /
/dev/hda3             4.8G  2.7G  1.9G  58% /home
/dev/hda9             4.8G   33M  4.5G   1% /mnt/debian
/dev/hda2             4.9G  2.8G  2.1G  56% /mnt/gentoo
/dev/hda5              99M  6.6M   87M   7% /mnt/gentoo/boot
/dev/hda8             4.8G  2.5G  2.1G  54% /mnt/mandrake
/dev/hda1             9.5G  5.8G  3.8G  60% /mnt/winc
/dev/hdc1             9.3G  1.2G  8.1G  13% /mnt/wind
none                  251M     0  250M   0% /dev/shm
/dev/hdc2              27G   18G  8.1G  69% /pub
/dev/hda10            3.1G  213M  2.8G   7% /var
/dev/hdc2              27G   18G  8.1G  69% /mnt/gentoo/pub
[root@fancypiper root]#

Last edited by fancypiper; 02-14-2003 at 10:30 PM.
 
Old 02-14-2003, 10:39 PM   #5
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Right, and thanks for the clarification ; but I am wondering why you are wanting to know the partititon table when it appears this person is going to need space on an existing partition (assuming there is no other space on the drive, which is why I was thinking you were wanting to see fdisk -l). I thought maybe you were moving a little quickly and meant to ask for df -h rather than fdisk - l for space available on device to resize it. However, I can also see why you'd want fdisk -l if you are looking to see if there is other non-partitioned space left on the drive

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Old 02-15-2003, 09:13 AM   #6
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For the first one, fdisk would not work, for some reason. kept getting "command not found" and yes, I am in root. Learned that one early on. Tried every flavor and configuration. no luck. Probably do not have something installed ??

df -h did work however. THE following is the result:

/dev/hdc2 Size: 6.3G Used:1.7G Avail:4.3G Use%27 Mounted on /
/dev/hdc1 Size:99M Used:9.2M Avail:84M Use%10 Mounted on /boot
none Size:251M Used:0 Avail:250M Use%0 Mount n/dev/shm

As for the mouse problems, Mouse works until installation is all done, and its in config. I pick the PS/2, it is a PS/2 MS scroll Intellimouse. I have tried leaving it the way the install detects it, no.

I have a NVIDIA GEFORCE 420 video card. I have read of others having problems with this card. I do not have a good knowledge of how to download and install drivers in Linux, can in Windows. REdHat detects the card okay. AS said before, the mouse works, the pointer just doesn't move from its spot in the upper left corner. That makes things very interesting, especially on a web page

THanks for all your help and thank you to all who keep this site running. It has been extremely helpful. I spend hours reading through, trying to learn before asking. Still haven't read through everything.
 
Old 02-15-2003, 11:10 AM   #7
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You can try finding fdisk:
whereis fdisk
If something returns use that full path to execute it, if nothing, just a shot in the dark try:
/sbin/fdisk -l

But as it stands now, you could just resize your / partition and install Mandrake onto it. However, you may be better off first trying to see if there is any unpartitioned space (or unmounted/unused partition) on the drive with the fdisk command. That way you wouldn't have to resize anything, just format and install.

Try different mice, even though it's a standard ps/2 maybe imps/2 might work better, or one of the other options.

As for the nvidia problem, let's tackle fdisk first, nvidia won't be too bad, and actually I think you'll find one of the other threads addressing installation on these drivers very beneficial, some have gone into great detail explaining how to install it. Here's a few links to get you started:
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...threadid=30332
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...threadid=41075

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Old 02-15-2003, 12:33 PM   #8
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Okay, it is in /usr/sbin
Here's the results:
hdc1 - start 1 - end 13 blocks 104391 ID 83 Linux
hdc2 start 14 - end 847 blocks 6699105 ID 83 Linux
hdc3 start 848 - 977 blocks 1044225 ID 82 Linux swap
Thank you also for the links to Nvidia. I will check them out.
 
Old 02-15-2003, 08:41 PM   #9
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fancypiper, help me out here My math skills are lacking when converting bytes/bits/mbits/mbytes, but is that ~1GB of Swap?

If so, I'd strongly suggest resizing that down, and adding the extra space onto a second partition that you will create from resizing down your / partition All of this should be able to be accomplished using a program called parted:
http://freshmeat.net/projects/gnupar...c_id=142%2C147

If you run into problems with resizing the swap, here's what I'd do (please, if someone has a better idea, by all means suggest ):
I'd first convirt the swap partition/filesystem into the same filesystem that is used on the / partition:
mke2fs -j /dev/hdc3
I'd then procede with the resizing, and at the end, recreate the swap partition with the remaining space:
mkswap -c /dev/hdx (where hdx is the new paritition created after the resize for swap). This will create the swap partition, and check for bad blocks. If you don't want to check for bad blocks remove the -c flag. Then, swapon /dev/hdx to enable the swap file to be used.



HTH

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Old 02-15-2003, 09:09 PM   #10
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In my partitioning I posted, I have 128 mb swap partition. Swap seldom gets touched on my box.

Try the command free if you don't know your swap size.
Code:
[phil@fancypiper phil]$ free
             total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
Mem:        513804     485196      28608          0      63568     224460
-/+ buffers/cache:     197168     316636
Swap:       136512          0     136512
[phil@fancypiper phil]$

Last edited by fancypiper; 02-15-2003 at 09:13 PM.
 
Old 02-15-2003, 09:53 PM   #11
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I thank you all for your input. I think I will just see if I can pick up a used HD and install it, then put Mandrake on it. Sounds a lot easier than what you propose, not that what you proposed was bad. It's just that I don't trust myself as yet. I was going to try to download Flight Gear and try it, but it too looks like a lot of actions that I am not familiar with just yet. I am going to continue to learn and some day . . .
 
Old 02-15-2003, 09:55 PM   #12
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That's a decent idea as well Good Luck and have fun linuxing

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