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Old 09-15-2003, 04:32 PM   #1
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Mandrake 9.1 question


Ok... so I'm using mandrake 9.1 and downloaded all of the security updates.... 40 meg total I think.

Went to work...came home and my pc said (updates sucessfully installed).

What is this???/ no REBOOT??? Come on....can it be that easy?

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Old 09-15-2003, 04:39 PM   #2
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well, technically you dont have to reboot Linux at all, unless you change your kernel.
You only restart services.
Yes it is that easy...
 
Old 09-15-2003, 04:39 PM   #3
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Sure is

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Old 09-15-2003, 04:42 PM   #4
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Linux is sweet!

But... I do have another question.

Why I can't read from my CD rom if its a music cd?


any thoughts?

brian
 
Old 09-15-2003, 04:44 PM   #5
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If you wanted to, you could reboot, for old times sake.

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Old 09-15-2003, 04:53 PM   #6
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Re: Linux is sweet!

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Originally posted by mrnikeswsh
But... I do have another question.

Why I can't read from my CD rom if its a music cd?


any thoughts?

brian
Because there is no data only raw audio on a true Audio CD. However, there are tools out there that are available for those who HAVe to be able to read it in something like a file browser, check out google for info on CDFS and related articles like AudioFS, and also, read around the board, there is apparently a way to do it with konqueror that I'm not too worried about because I use grip to listen to my audioCD's and it displays the track with info

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Old 09-15-2003, 08:35 PM   #7
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grip ???

Ok...I"m loving linux...I saw you mention a app called GRIP...do you belive that this is the only application that won't start? all I get is the hour glass.....turning and turning then it disappears???

Can I re-install it somewhere?

Thanks

Brian
 
Old 09-15-2003, 09:25 PM   #8
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Launch if from a terminal to get some error messages

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Old 09-15-2003, 09:43 PM   #9
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error

Error: Unable to initialize [/dev/cdrom]


I'm ok with data cd.......just not music cd's. should grip open music only cd's (store bought) ?

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Old 09-15-2003, 10:29 PM   #10
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Yes, grip can see music CDs, see whether it is named /dev/cdrom in
your /etc/fstab

more /etc/fstab

mine is called /dev/scd0 becuase it is a CD-RW. You can then configure GRIP to the correct device. Just post your /etc/fstab here, or, if you have an icon on the desktop for your CDROM, see what the device is named under properties.

You don't have a data CD in, but a music CD in when you try to launch GRIP right?

RO
 
Old 09-16-2003, 06:04 AM   #11
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grip

Where do I tell grip to use this dev. ?
/dev/scd0 /mnt/cdrom auto user,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,noauto,ro,exec 0 0

??

Brian Z


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Yes, grip can see music CDs, see whether it is named /dev/cdrom in
your /etc/fstab

more /etc/fstab

mine is called /dev/scd0 becuase it is a CD-RW. You can then configure GRIP to the correct device. Just post your /etc/fstab here, or, if you have an icon on the desktop for your CDROM, see what the device is named under properties.

You don't have a data CD in, but a music CD in when you try to launch GRIP right?

RO
 
Old 09-16-2003, 09:12 AM   #12
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Try
grip --device=/dev/scd0
or
grip --scsi-device=/dev/scd0

I suspect the second command.

RO

grip --help
 
Old 09-16-2003, 11:16 AM   #13
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Thanks!

actually it was the first!

grip --device=/dev/scd0...

Only thing is I don't have my audio cable from my drive to my mother board..... so...NO SOUND! LOL

I"m pretty sure (bit my tongue)....that windows media player played it without that cable.

Oh well... 2 second fix!

Brian

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Old 09-16-2003, 11:41 AM   #14
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Once you have grip open, you can change the default under Config-->CD so you don't have to specify it each time. I generally prefer the cable because it doesn't take away from the bus or use any CPU to transfer the data. xmms, however, can read CDs over the MB, but I don't like it for playing CDs. Small and simple kscd.

RO
 
Old 09-16-2003, 11:52 AM   #15
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Re: Thanks!

Quote:
Originally posted by mrnikeswsh
Only thing is I don't have my audio cable from my drive to my mother board..... so...NO SOUND! LOL

I"m pretty sure (bit my tongue)....that windows media player played it without that cable.
What media player was doing was extracting the audio data from the data cable (like if you were to copy the CDA files from the CD) and decode and play them that way. Put's more load on the system since it has to do all this decoding stuff. Playing it through that audio cable is what most apps do because all that decoding is being handled by the CD ROM and just sending the audio to the computer's sound card, instead of making the computer decode it. You can usually tell what's happening because when it's doing the media player method the drives activity light flashes a lot like when you install a program from cd or something. Usually when it's sending it via the audio cable (can't remember the technical name off-hand) the light does a steady and slow flash, like 1/2 second on 1/2 second off.
 
  


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