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Old 11-21-2005, 02:15 PM   #1
Lleb_KCir
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Major problem with yum/centos 4.2 and remote desktop


i have been trying to get the remote desktop tool for KDE working on my laptop running CentOS 4.2

here are the errors and tracks i am getting:

Code:
[root@ssmahome ~]# yum install krdc
Repository update is listed more than once in the configuration
Repository base is listed more than once in the configuration
Repository addons is listed more than once in the configuration
Repository extras is listed more than once in the configuration
Setting up Install Process
Setting up repositories
dag                       100% |=========================| 1.1 kB    00:00
kde-redhat-stable-all     100% |=========================|  951 B    00:00
kde-redhat-stable         100% |=========================|  951 B    00:00
update                    100% |=========================|  951 B    00:00
base                      100% |=========================| 1.1 kB    00:00
addons                    100% |=========================|  951 B    00:00
extras                    100% |=========================| 1.1 kB    00:00
Reading repository metadata in from local files
Parsing package install arguments
No Match for argument: krdc
Nothing to do
[root@ssmahome ~]# yum search rdc
Repository update is listed more than once in the configuration
Repository base is listed more than once in the configuration
Repository addons is listed more than once in the configuration
Repository extras is listed more than once in the configuration
Searching Packages:
Setting up repositories
dag                       100% |=========================| 1.1 kB    00:00
kde-redhat-stable-all     100% |=========================|  951 B    00:00
kde-redhat-stable         100% |=========================|  951 B    00:00
update                    100% |=========================|  951 B    00:00
base                      100% |=========================| 1.1 kB    00:00
addons                    100% |=========================|  951 B    00:00
extras                    100% |=========================| 1.1 kB    00:00
Reading repository metadata in from local files


kdenetwork.i386                          7:3.4.3-1.1.el4.kde    kde-redhat-stabl
Matched from:
Networking applications, including:
* kdict: graphical client for the DICT protocol.
* kit: AOL instant messenger client, using the TOC protocol
* knewsticker: RDF newsticker applet
* kopete: chat client (requires qca-tls for optional jabber/ssl support)
* kpf: public fileserver applet
* kppp: dialer and front end for pppd
* krdc: a client for Desktop Sharing and other VNC servers (requires rdesktop)
* krfb: Desktop Sharing server, allow others to access your desktop via VNC
* ksirc: IRC client
* ktalkd: talk daemon
* kxmlrpc: KDE XmlRpc Daemon
* lanbrowsing: lan browsing kio slave
[root@ssmahome ~]# yum install rdesktop
Repository update is listed more than once in the configuration
Repository base is listed more than once in the configuration
Repository addons is listed more than once in the configuration
Repository extras is listed more than once in the configuration
Setting up Install Process
Setting up repositories
dag                       100% |=========================| 1.1 kB    00:00
kde-redhat-stable-all     100% |=========================|  951 B    00:00
kde-redhat-stable         100% |=========================|  951 B    00:00
update                    100% |=========================|  951 B    00:00
base                      100% |=========================| 1.1 kB    00:00
addons                    100% |=========================|  951 B    00:00
extras                    100% |=========================| 1.1 kB    00:00
Reading repository metadata in from local files
Parsing package install arguments
Nothing to do
so yum is telling me that krdc does not exsist, but it is then telling me that is does exsist and requires an other tool that does not exsist...

what is this BS from yum. under RH9 i never had this problem and KDE just installed INCLUDING the remote desktop tools. Why is CentOS 4.2 being such a royal PITA when all it is is a fork of RHE?
 
Old 11-21-2005, 03:04 PM   #2
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ok, hang on there, i'd VERY strongly advise that you are sure of what you're saying before you g insulting all and sundry. looking at that output, yum is VERY clearly correct. you are asking it to install a *PACKAGE* that doesn't exist.... how do you expect it to magically know where to find it??? your "proof" that it exists is simply a text description in the correct package. you've even copied right there on the thread what package it has TOLD YOU to install! install kdenetwork!
 
Old 11-21-2005, 03:14 PM   #3
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well kdenetwork was not the problem. i ended up having to hit a rpm find site to grab the following RPMs to get something close to what i was looking for but still not the exact tool:

kdenetwork-common-3.4.1-kdeorg_1c1.i386.rpm
krdc-3.4.1-kdeorg_1c1.i386.rpm
tsclient-0.132-4.x86.rpm

took a combination of all three of those RPMs grabed one at a time to get the tsclient working and it is not the tool i was hopping for. In Debian KDE comes with the krdc tool installed. see above krdc is listed package, but not to be found thus my frustration with yum.

also noted that under RH9 (last time i worked with a rpm based distro) yum install rdesktop or yum install krdc both WORKED exactly as typed. no need to go find a bunch of differnt rpms that are not associated by name with the package i am looking for.

i am not looking for kdenetwork, i am not looking for tsclient (wrong tool btw) i am looking for krdc the remote desktop tool that gives several extra settings for controlling the bandwidth used when connecting via VNC or RDP. the tsclient tool is nice, but lacks that type of controll so you get 100% as if you were connected via a LAN. that is not good when you are remote and operating off a much slower connection then a 10/100 switch, not to mention no true ability to change or adjust or scale the display to match my laptops desktop vs the remote desktop being displayed.

so before you go flaming, please get enough information and answer the simple question put forth. why are package that are able to be found via a simple yum search, not able to be installed via yum install. it is there so says the search, but not able to be installed because it can not be found. cant be both ways. either it is there and it is called krdc or it is not there.
 
Old 11-21-2005, 04:33 PM   #4
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are you really not understanding this? krdc is in the kdenetwork package, what else could anyone possibly say? it's not available as a single package, it's in kdenetwork... "it is there so says the search" yes, the search SAYS that it is in the kdenetwork package!

go learn how to use yum and rpm's THEN complain when you know for a fact it's not working right. yum is clearly correct in every way possible in this case. how does a member of LQ get over 1700 posts and not get used to things like this?? whether you're aux fait with rpm's or not, this kind of thing should really be making sense to you.

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Old 11-21-2005, 07:12 PM   #5
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i guess im just spoiled with debian. *grins*

even after i had kdenetwork installed, krdc was not available, i had to do the above rpm individual to gain access to it.
 
Old 11-22-2005, 01:28 AM   #6
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spoiled??!?! debian has it as an indiviudal package, yum has it as a collection.. where does being spoiled come into any of this?! if you had installed kdenetwork is WAS available...you did not have to install ANYTHING else, you did it wrong.
 
Old 11-22-2005, 01:40 AM   #7
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then i did it wrong, but it works now.

by spoiled i mean when i ask it a question it gives me an answer that i do not have to go digging for any further. apt-get install X and im done. if i want krdc or kaffeine, or rdesktop, that is what i ask for and that is what i get.

i dont ask for krdc and get kdenetwork, that requires also kdenetwork-common, mind you that is not available via yum to install, i get kdrc to install. im kind of simple that way. if i ask for something i expect it to be found by the same name i ask for it not a different name that does not give 100% of the applications it requires to run.

this was not a yum vs apt-get thread, but if you realy want to get nitty gritty, apt-get is faster, more reliable, and returns proper search results that just work.

i used RH9 for about 1 year and have used Debian since, so that would make it roughly 1.5 - 2 years and i have to say Debian handles things way better then RH does when it comes to package management and name schemes from what i have seen. the only exception to that would be the mozilla line of applications like FireFox and Thunderbird. those 2 were a bit of a PITA to find in debian, but once you understand their name scheme things work real fast and easy.

yum is about 3 - 4 times slower then apt and if you do not grab full headers when you try to install you may or may not be able to install the package you are after so the -C is worthless except for searching.

anyways. it works, yum did not do its job, i had to go out and grab the individual RPM files to get everything working properly and i am satisfied.
 
Old 11-22-2005, 08:50 AM   #8
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yeah yum is pretty slow, but actually the latest version has switched over to use sqllite backends rather than flat header files. it has made it substantially quicker. I still prefer using apt under centos eitherway. i prefer gentoo's portage over any implementation of apt at that anyway.
 
  


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