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Old 01-10-2009, 11:34 PM   #1
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Thumbs down mainly need help with installation of intel graphics drivers also x11 and more


running opensuse 11.1 on dell dimension 4600 with integrated intel graphics 865 g

i'm new to linux and i've been having some trouble with installing

xf86-video-intel-2.5.99.2

i unzipped the file into a directory of the same name.

the directory's contents are:

----------------
acinclude.m4
autogen.sh
configure.ac
COPYING
.gitignore
Makefile.am
README
/man
/src
/uxa
----------------

i've read the readme and it offers no instructions at all on what to do

i don't know much about linux yet, but i've tried using the same methods i used to install other programs, like ./configure and make and i've been all over the internet trying to find out how to do this but i only got close to an answer once.

i'm going to make a note that i tried to install the previous version of the driver, xf86-video-intel-2.5.99.1 by typing ./configure, and it worked. it only worked up to a certain point though until it said i needed xorg-server, xorg-fonts(? or something), and xproto. long story short i ended up getting xorg-x11-server from the software management tool and it still didn't work. i've been struggling with these different packages and everything for hours and every time i've tried to install something, i'm always missing something else.

mainly i just want to figure out what i would do if i were to encounter this situation again where things aren't as simple as ./configure or make.

thanks
 
Old 01-11-2009, 01:39 AM   #2
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Hi crare,

I have installed a few programs (like wine) using the ./configure scripts. But ofcourse there are some scripts that do not get installed with that script. Thats the reson why the distributions give you a package manager (yast2/zast2 in your case). For a person who is new to programming or linux in general the recomeded option is to use the package manager.

There are a few ways to work yor your problem.
1. Try to boot into CLI and run yast - you have an option there to ask the suse to reconfigure the screen.
2. Else you can try the 'xorgconfig' command and it will ask you some questions about your monitor and you have the option of configuring it yourself.
3. Other than that you can edit the /etc/X11/xorg.config file manually.

I think one of the above options should work.
 
Old 01-11-2009, 03:31 AM   #3
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Quote:
the directory's contents are:

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acinclude.m4
autogen.sh
configure.ac
COPYING
.gitignore
Makefile.am
README
/man
/src
/uxa
well see the file autogen.sh

autogen.sh
Code:
#! /bin/sh
srcdir=`dirname $0`
test -z "$srcdir" && srcdir=.
ORIGDIR=`pwd`
cd $srcdir
autoreconf -v --install || exit 1
cd $ORIGDIR || exit $?
$srcdir/configure --enable-maintainer-mode "$@"
that file needs to be ran ( i like to be root for autoreconf and autogen)
Code:
su - ( or sudo) 
cd -  to the folder 
./autogen.sh
autogen.sh may need to be made executable ,if so
Code:
su - ( or sudo) 
cd -  to the folder 
chmod +x autogen.sh
./autogen.sh

Last edited by John VV; 01-11-2009 at 03:33 AM.
 
Old 01-11-2009, 03:27 PM   #4
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after trying ./autogen.sh, i got an error about not finding autoconf. i tried to apt-get it, but there was no such command as apt-get. i sudo zypper install apt. it worked. i get the autoconf package from the software management.

i get this:
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linux-f8fj:/home/ryan/drivers/xf86-video-intel-2.5.99.2 # ./autogen.sh
autoreconf: Entering directory `.'
autoreconf: configure.ac: not using Gettext
autoreconf: running: aclocal
configure.ac:261: error: must install xorg-macros 1.1.3 or later before running autoconf/autogen
configure.ac:261: the top level
autom4te: /usr/bin/m4 failed with exit status: 1
aclocal: autom4te failed with exit status: 1
autoreconf: aclocal failed with exit status: 1
-----------------------
so then i download util-macros-1.1.3 from x.org
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linux-f8fj:/home/ryan/drivers/util-macros-1.1.3 # ./configure
checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
checking whether build environment is sane... yes
checking for gawk... gawk
checking whether make sets $(MAKE)... yes
configure: creating ./config.status
config.status: creating Makefile
config.status: creating xorg-macros.m4
------------------------

now my directory contains:
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linux-f8fj:/home/ryan/drivers/util-macros-1.1.3 # dir
total 280
-rw-r--r-- 1 ryan users 2644 Aug 27 2006 COPYING
-rw-r--r-- 1 ryan users 9345 Nov 30 2006 ChangeLog
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 16836 Jan 11 14:43 Makefile
-rw-r--r-- 1 ryan users 1365 Aug 27 2006 Makefile.am
-rw-r--r-- 1 ryan users 17147 Nov 30 2006 Makefile.in
-rw-r--r-- 1 ryan users 685 Aug 27 2006 README
-rw-r--r-- 1 ryan users 20796 Nov 30 2006 aclocal.m4
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4816 Jan 11 14:43 config.log
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 21851 Jan 11 14:43 config.status
-rwxr-xr-x 1 ryan users 90503 Nov 30 2006 configure
-rw-r--r-- 1 ryan users 1985 Nov 30 2006 configure.ac
-rwxr-xr-x 1 ryan users 9233 Aug 27 2006 install-sh
-rwxr-xr-x 1 ryan users 11014 Aug 27 2006 missing
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 13566 Jan 11 14:43 xorg-macros.m4
-rw-r--r-- 1 ryan users 13570 Nov 8 2006 xorg-macros.m4.in
-rw-r--r-- 1 ryan users 2574 Nov 30 2006 xorgversion.m4
----------------------------------
and now i can't figure out what the hell to do.
----------------------------------
linux-f8fj:/home/ryan/drivers/util-macros-1.1.3 # make
make: Nothing to be done for `all'.
-----------------------------------
i've tried make and i've tried looking up everything else i could try but i didn't get anywhere.
 
Old 01-11-2009, 05:42 PM   #5
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i was assuming that you had installed the dev tools for "opensuse 11.1"
gcc
autotools
--autoconf
-- attomake
--binutils
-- libtool
--make
-- and so on
pkgconfig
you WILL also need the kernel source/ dev package to build that driver

but i am surprised that the generic driver " Intel" that is built into the kernel is not working .
 
Old 01-11-2009, 07:43 PM   #6
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Quote:
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you WILL also need the kernel source/ dev package to build that driver
More than that I suspect. This is the latest, days-old, bleeding edge intel driver, possibly requiring a similarly up-to-date kernel and most likely other stuff.

Quote:
but i am surprised that the generic driver " Intel" that is built into the kernel is not working.
I was also wondering why the OP needed the latest version (although it is supposed to be a significant upgrade). Even experienced linux users would think twice before bypassing the packaging system to attempt this.
 
Old 01-12-2009, 10:07 PM   #7
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hey, this is awesome, thanks for all the great help.

Quote:
but i am surprised that the generic driver " Intel" that is built into the kernel is not working .
it's not that it's not working. i know that if it ain't broke, don't fix it, but the reason i want to upgrade this driver is because i've read that the driver that comes with linux for older intel integrated cards is pretty slow and i've noticed it being slow myself. it could just be that the card is so old and there's nothing i can do, but after looking around the internet there seems to be some evidence pointing to getting a new driver for the intel card to improve performance.

i also can't use desktop effects on KDE through XRender or OpenGL (however the desktop effects on Gnome worked alright). i get check your X configuration and especially check the compositing type (tried both opengl and xrender).

also i just love playing around with linux because it takes the mundane "things usually work with little to no effort" out of computing. i have a tiny bit of programming experience and i've been using computers since i was about 4 (1990 for me), so seeing a command prompt kind of touches me in a special way. instead of just using a computer i get to play with it. i've also been reading What the Dormouse Said and it's a little bit inspiring to think about where computers are now and where they're going.

looks like i'm going to get the dev tools and just keep picking away at this thing until i encounter another sticky spot.

again thanks a lot for all the help

-ryan
 
Old 01-13-2009, 02:06 AM   #8
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well the newest intel driver wont run ( or at least well) on old legacy hardware
the current driver for that chipset is this from ( 12/17/2004)
http://downloadcenter.intel.com/filt...9&submit=Go%21

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i've read that the driver that comes with linux for older intel integrated cards is pretty slow and i've noticed it being slow myself
this also might have something to do with your system ram ,how much do you have on that ,laptop is it . 256 or 512 meg .Also the gnome/kde compz-fusion or just the very basic gnome-compz WILL run slow on a integrated 3d chipset
 
Old 01-13-2009, 03:20 AM   #9
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well i just put Gnome back on here because I like it the most from what I've seen in these GUIs. Getting my internet running through ndiswrapper has become natural (I'll never forget [on this PC]) to me by now because of trying to run KDE, Gnome, and xfce just to get on this internet...

anyway somebody asked me about my system RAM and there's 1GB+ on it (I'm pretty sure it's 1GB + some amount i'm not sure of [it's my girlfriend's old computer that i'm tinkering with and I know i have over 1GB {can't remember at the moment but...}]), so i'm pretty sure it's not a problem with RAM as well as it not being a laptop (Dell Dimension 4600 Desktop). I'm pretty sure once i drop a few dollars on a less sh---y computer with some kind of NVidia or Radeon I'll have a few less problems with these things.

It's actually probably time to invest in some new hardware since 2002 (or something).

I haven't really owned a computer to play around with for a long time so i think that getting some modern hardware would help my situation.

It's probably time to build my own PC.

Again, thanks for all the help. I'm a little bit inexperienced in the Linux to be dealing with problems like this. I feel like I'd be best off getting some new hardware and then figuring it out since I'm a beginner.

Thanks for all the help and everything, but I feel like this is all coming back down to ye olde $$$.
 
Old 01-13-2009, 03:28 AM   #10
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strange thing thought about which i forgot to mention (the reason why i ended up posting in the first place [that i totally forgot out]) is that after the installer told me to format my old partitions and I still have history and everything on Firefox. The installer (from the boot disc that I have) told me I had to format my old partitions so I went ahead with it. For some reason I still have the same settings after the format...

I'm almost considering putting windows back on here, but I really don't believe in it.

HELP~!1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

ONe , one.................
 
Old 01-13-2009, 03:32 AM   #11
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basically the OpenSuSE installer told me it was going to format the HD and I still have elements remaining from a past installation. Basically I'm confounded. Why are my settings before I formatted still showing up

Something is wrong here.
 
Old 01-13-2009, 07:21 AM   #12
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You mean your (Windows) firefox settings/history showed up in (Linux) firefox after reformatting the disk and replacing the OS?

It is certainly possible for an installer to do that trick, if it is smart enough. But I never heard of such a thing. But I can't think of any other explanation.

Perhaps if you started a new thread in the appropriate distro section some other OpenSuSE users might know what is going on.
 
Old 01-13-2009, 09:48 AM   #13
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well, what probably happened is that every time i've tried to install opensuse it has had to format my HD. when i tried this time maybe it didn't format again (i wasn't even paying attention so i dont know). i still have files left over from the last install (downloads and things + drivers). plus i didn't have to do ndiswrapper to get my wireless card working (it just worked right away).

if it wasn't the fault of the installer it's probably the HD because it has crashed a few times pretty badly and i've had a few programs tell me that there is physical damage to the disk.

i just want to say again that every time i've tried to do opensuse (even dual-booting with winxp) the installer has said there is nothing it can do but format the whole HD. maybe this time it didn't. i'm so confounded by this whole computer mess today.

anyway the latest problem i've had is that i downloaded the flash rpm and installed but it doesn't work.

i think i'm just going to drop some money on a more reliable computer because this one has been crap since i first used it (it was broken).

i still love linux though. it's a love-hate thing.
 
Old 01-13-2009, 01:20 PM   #14
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you could use gparted to partition the drive into 2 partitions 1 xp 1 suse
i like the live cd " SystemRescueCd"
http://www.sysresccd.org/Main_Page
 
  


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