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Old 10-26-2003, 04:34 AM   #1
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Linux newbie but bad experience so far


Hi! I have been more and more interested in the Linux community and the open-source movement.

I decided to install Linux at home because I would like to learn more about Linux, because I liked what I read about Linux security and because I like to program and Linux looks like a very nice platform to use for it.

I chose Red Hat 9.0 just because it was the only distribution had at hand. The installation went fine and I thought: "Wow! It's that easy after all!". I installed LILO and it was working fine. Dual boot WinXP/Linux RH

Than I decided to format my windows partition and install it again (not gonna get rid of it so fast ) because... well... it was doing those things windows does sometimes... Result: windows working again but I lost LILO! Newbie!! Maybe I should have installed it on the Linux partition (disk) and not on MBR.

Some friends convinced me that GRUB was a bit better than LILO. So this time I installed GRUB! What happens now? GRUB hangs on startup displaying only the word GRUB!

I can still start Linux with a boot disk. I reinstalled grub, searched the internet but I could not find a solution to my problem. Maybe I'll get back to LILO...

Another problem! If I go to text mode, when I get back to graphical, sometimes, the displays looks all messed up! If I grab a window and move it around, I get all the images back thou. Not a major problem but annoying

So my first experience with Linux has been a little bad! If I was not so into learning more about Linux, I would get back to windows. Even thou I have some problems with windows, it's easier to get some solution or workaround..

I'll stick to Linux for now and I'm here to learn more about it.
 
Old 10-26-2003, 06:26 AM   #2
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Restore your windows mbr with a win boot/utilities disk, then boot your system with the Linux RH CD - Type "Linux Rescue" at the boot promt, then install grub. That might just solve your problem.
 
Old 10-26-2003, 06:58 AM   #3
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Or go with Mandrake 9.1 or 9.2. Redhat is more for businesses and such. Very similiar though.

Anytime you install windoze it will overwrite the boot record. That is windoze trying to keep you off Linux. They don't want you to use Linux you know. Wonder why? Beacuse it is better maybe. Bet they a lot. So many holes they can't fix them fast enough.

Hang in there, it gets better.

If you live close to the west coast

http://cart.cheapbytes.com/cgi-bin/cart <California>

Closer to the east coast

http://www.edmunds-enterprises.com/linux/index.php <Florida>

Hope that helps

 
Old 10-26-2003, 03:51 PM   #4
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Hello,
I've just moved your thread to Linux - Software. The question part of your post is bigger than the introduction one, so I think your post fits better here.

How have you installed GRUB? Are you sure its configuration was OK? Could you post it and tell us which partition is used by which system?
 
Old 10-26-2003, 04:18 PM   #5
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It wasn't my intention to make it a question because I already searched everywhere for a solution and didn't find it so I gave up...

But since you guys want to help and since there's a lot of other ppl with a similar problem:

# grub.conf generated by anaconda
#
# Note that you do not have to rerun grub after making changes to this file
# NOTICE: You have a /boot partition. This means that
# all kernel and initrd paths are relative to /boot/, eg.
# root (hd1,0)
# kernel /vmlinuz-version ro root=/dev/hdb2
# initrd /initrd-version.img
#boot=/dev/hdb1
default=1
timeout=10
splashimage=(hd1,0)/grub/splash.xpm.gz
title Red Hat Linux (2.4.20-8)
root (hd1,0)
kernel /vmlinuz-2.4.20-8 ro root=LABEL=/ hdc=ide-scsi
initrd /initrd-2.4.20-8.img
title DOS
rootnoverify (hd0,0)
chainloader +1

This is the grub.conf file generated when I installed Red Hat for the second time. So it should be ok...

PS:


Disk /dev/hda: 120.0 GB, 120034123776 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 14593 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes

Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/hda1 * 1 2550 20482843+ 7 HPFS/NTFS
/dev/hda2 2551 14593 96735397+ f Win95 Ext'd (LBA)
/dev/hda5 2551 8572 48371683+ 7 HPFS/NTFS
/dev/hda6 8573 14593 48363651 b Win95 FAT32

Disk /dev/hdb: 15.3 GB, 15367790592 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 1868 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes

Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/hdb1 * 1 13 104391 83 Linux
/dev/hdb2 14 1787 14249655 83 Linux
/dev/hdb3 1788 1868 650632+ 82 Linux swap

Last edited by Covel; 10-26-2003 at 04:51 PM.
 
Old 10-26-2003, 07:00 PM   #6
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Did you (or are you going to) install SP1 to XP, too?
I heard that it also 'repairs' your master boot record. So you are likely to do this all over again.
As for the screen problem: the last time I had similar problems (all windows opened remaining on the screen in Mandrake) it turned out to be due to a buggy VGA card driver: Mandrake auto-detected my VGA card as S3Trio 3D2x, and used a buggy S3Trio driver. I replaced the driver with S3 Virge and everithing worked fine.
So, maybe you should update your VGA card driver, or revert to a similar, but working driver.
Anyway, you could google search the web and find the solution in some minutes.

Last edited by J_Szucs; 10-26-2003 at 07:15 PM.
 
Old 10-26-2003, 07:10 PM   #7
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I don't want to install grub in the mbr anymore. It's installed on the linux partition
 
Old 11-02-2003, 03:49 PM   #8
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OK. So you need to remove GRUB from your MBR. Make a Windows boot disk, boot from it and run
fdisk /mbr
Your machine will boot directly to Windows. But then you need to add Linux to Windows boot menu (or use Linux bot floppy).
 
Old 11-02-2003, 04:00 PM   #9
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Hmmm. I tried GRUB a few months ago, made it work but it would sit there, as if hung, for at least a full minute. After that, it would bring up its menu and work fine. I got fed up with it and went back to LILO.

GRUB's a good idea, but needs a little more work IMHO.
 
  


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