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kde issues - kcontrol not displaying printer configuration module
(broke this thread out into a separate thread per issue)
I'm running kde 3.3.2 level "A" on Suse Linux 9.1
First issue: kcontrol not displaying printer configuration module
When I run kcontrol and go to the Peripherals section, Printer Configuration is missing. I've reconfigured the printers by running kprinter directly but it would be nice to make the module display properly as expected in kcontrol. I've logged into other accounts (root, etc) to see if it was a problem with config files or if it was binaries, and in all cases the module does not display in kcontrol.
I guess you haven't gotten any response 'cause nobody is sure what to tell you... those are weird problems, for sure. I used KDE 3.3.2 for a few weeks before upgrading to 3.4 beta1. I don't recall having any of the problems you described above.
A workaround to the first problem is to go to the K Menu and select Settings -> Printer Manager. You'll see the same GUI screen that you would with KControl -> Peripherals -> Printer.
Originally posted by KimVette There is no settings menu. There is a preferences menu though. When I go to Kmenu -> Preferences -> peripherals I see exactly what I see in control center - everything except kprinter is there.
I am not talking about the menu items inside kcontrol. Press the Win key (or <Alt + F1> to display the K Start menu. One of the menu items should be "Settings."
If you choose the above "Settings," the drop-down menu should show "Printer Manager" as one of the items. You should see something like this.
This is the module that configures your printers under KDE. Or is there any specific reason you have to use kprinter instead?
BTW, this printer module is exactly what should show up in the KDE Control Center when you select Peripherals -> Printer.
Thanks daihard, but I know how to get to it manually. I am just trying to figure out what is broken in kcontrol as far as kprinter is concerned - why is the module missing? Is it a KDE 3.3 defect, or did I break a configuration file during the upgrade process? I am still learning KDE architecture and configuration from the back end (their config files make the Windows registry look like a cakewalk) and with little to no documentation it's extremely time-consuming. The konqueror issue has me baffled, too, and due to GUID-style naming of session files, I can't really use kompare to diff two different accounts' files - at least not easily.
Originally posted by KimVette Thanks daihard, but I know how to get to it manually. I am just trying to figure out what is broken in kcontrol as far as kprinter is concerned - why is the module missing? Is it a KDE 3.3 defect, or did I break a configuration file during the upgrade process?
I'm puzzled. The KDE Control Center does display the Print Manager screen by going to Peripherals --> Printers, as shown below:
Look, I don't mean to be rude, but when I say it isn't there, it isn't there. Or, to put it more simply, KDE 3.3 is done broke!
In kcontrol -> peripherals I see:
Again: "Printers" ain't there. It goed away. It went bye-bye. It done broke. It's kaput.
It was there in KDE 3.2.x but is not there in KDE 3.3. I know how to get to it directly (if you refer back to my original post, I did not ask how to get to it, but what to check for to fix kcontrol, to make printers actually display in it). I am not looking for help in getting printers configured - I am looking to fix kcontrol so that when I upgrade other boxes to KDE 3.3 then the printers "control panel" will be readily accessible by other users.
Again: I am not looking for workarounds. I won't put a symlink on the desktop as a hack workaround. I KNOW the potential workarounds. I am looking to FIX kprinter. I appreciate that you're trying to help, but honestly, you're not helping at all by telling me how it "should" look when I already stated in the original post what I know to expect, and what the symptom is, and also mentioned that while I did work around the issue, I'd like to resolve the core problem, that is, getting kprinter to display in kcontrol.
Originally posted by KimVette
[B]Look, I don't mean to be rude, but when I say it isn't there, it isn't there. Or, to put it more simply, KDE 3.3 is done broke!
I know you don't mean to be rude. I think the source of confusion is that you refer to the printer control as "kprinter." The "Printer Manager," or the component that I now know is missing from your KDE Control Center, is not kprinter. If you run "kprinter" from the terminal and compare the interface with the picture that I showed above, you'll know what I mean.
Now, why "Printer" does not show up in your KDE Control Center, that's beyond me. I know it's not a universal problem with KDE 3.3 - mine had "Printer" when I was using KDE 3.3.1/3.3.2. Which printing system were you using before you upgraded to 3.3.x? CUPS or LPD?