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Old 04-26-2011, 04:45 AM   #1
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(K)NetworkManager not working on openSuSE 11.4


Sorry, but I don't have more information either, so I can't even formulate an intelligent question .

I upgraded to 11.4 from 11.3. What I tried:

There is that twisted "N" symbol: clicking on it gives no response (but the mouse cursor is changed when over the menu bar).

Sometimes (not always(!), no pattern found when) the little cell phone symbol in the tray is there although hidden in a sub menu. There I can activate networkmanager but I then get a popup saying that network is already running do I want to start it by hand or automatically? Nothing happens clicking on either choice.

Starting from command line has no visible effect and no errors printed.

How should the connection be established? Where can I enter my parameters? (This is a 3G mobile connection).

I'm sorry about this post but I'm totally clueless about what is up.
 
Old 04-26-2011, 09:08 AM   #2
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Sorry, but I don't have more information either, so I can't even formulate an intelligent question .

I upgraded to 11.4 from 11.3. What I tried: There is that twisted "N" symbol: clicking on it gives no response (but the mouse cursor is changed when over the menu bar).

Sometimes (not always(!), no pattern found when) the little cell phone symbol in the tray is there although hidden in a sub menu. There I can activate networkmanager but I then get a popup saying that network is already running do I want to start it by hand or automatically? Nothing happens clicking on either choice.

Starting from command line has no visible effect and no errors printed. How should the connection be established? Where can I enter my parameters? (This is a 3G mobile connection). I'm sorry about this post but I'm totally clueless about what is up.
You're not alone. For some other-worldly reason, openSUSE shipped 11.4 with a nice updated KDE version, and by default, KNetwork manager. The catch is that the KNetwork manager shipped (and activated) with 11.4 DOESN'T WORK. It's noted on their website, and I did a similar amount of head-scratching after my latest upgrade too.

The solution is to install the plasmoid-knetworkmanagement. When you do this through the software management utility, you'll get a message-of-doom, saying you'll break knetworkmanager...and that's fine. The plasmoid didn't work correctly in earlier versions, but does now, so why it's not shipped/activated by default is beyond me.

Give that a shot.
 
Old 04-26-2011, 09:12 AM   #3
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Whoa. I noticed the plasmoid thingies but didn't know what they were and thus didn't touch them. Later I couldn't find them in searches on the DVD. I'll really dig for it now and will let you know. Thanks.

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Old 04-27-2011, 01:07 AM   #4
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Well. The plasmoid-knetworkmanagement is gone . I don't understand how this can be but no search turned it up. I even deleted the repository of the DVD (in YAST and with zypper on the command line) and re-created it -- no change. Any ideas, anyone?
 
Old 04-27-2011, 01:31 AM   #5
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I don't see it either. TB0ne can you point us to a repo?
 
Old 04-27-2011, 01:33 AM   #6
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But it was there earlier. I noticed it before I started to "tune" the system (i.e. I added gnome etc.). Now it is gone. How? Why?
 
Old 04-27-2011, 05:13 AM   #7
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Uppps. Missed your question re the repo. Here it is: http://download.opensuse.org/reposit...E_11.4/x86_64/ Contains plamoid-networkmanagement.rpm as it should.
 
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Uppps. Missed your question re the repo. Here it is: http://download.opensuse.org/reposit...E_11.4/x86_64/ Contains plamoid-networkmanagement.rpm as it should.
You beat me to it.
 
Old 04-28-2011, 01:13 AM   #9
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Okay, I downloaded it during work and installed it with YAST. No warnigs were given. When I click on Networkmanager now, a popup comes with everything except VPN grayed i.e. not active. So I can't enter my data for the mobile connection. (I can't add VPN data either). This is really starting to p*ss me off (sorry). I'll have to install again I'm afraid, just like windows, grrr.

I absolutely fail to understand, how a distro could be released with problems to connect to the net. Darn, not every machine is part of a server pool and can get needed files from the next room. My box sits in a little village way out in the country (thus the mobile connection). I downloaded the DVD to evade hassle with unreliable connections and now this...
 
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Okay, I downloaded it during work and installed it with YAST. No warnigs were given. When I click on Networkmanager now, a popup comes with everything except VPN grayed i.e. not active. So I can't enter my data for the mobile connection. (I can't add VPN data either). This is really starting to p*ss me off (sorry). I'll have to install again I'm afraid, just like windows, grrr.
Maybe...what kind of dongle are you using?? Glad you've at least made SOME progress with things.
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I absolutely fail to understand, how a distro could be released with problems to connect to the net. Darn, not every machine is part of a server pool and can get needed files from the next room. My box sits in a little village way out in the country (thus the mobile connection). I downloaded the DVD to evade hassle with unreliable connections and now this...
I totally agree with that. After a few days of getting annoyed at a VERY unreliable network connection (and thinking it was a bad installation on my part, or flaky hardware), I found that info on the openSUSE forums. I don't understand why it was purposely released that way either.
 
Old 04-29-2011, 01:24 AM   #11
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The dongle is a Huawei E170 (sometimes recognized as E160 or E220). It is working quite well. Problem is, that voice connections are favoured to the detriment of data. So if a lot of people are chatting over their cell phones data rates can drop to zero if worst comes to worst. I.e. don't start downloads in the evening...

Novell / SuSE skimped on testing.

Here is what I tried since then: I kicked out *kde4 network packets and loaded those for gnome (I don't have the URL at hand which describe that lengthy process, I'll try to post it later <edit> here it is: http://susestarter.blogspot.com/2011...use-gnome.html </edit>). I got the gnome network management nm-applet to run -- only for root. Not exactly the user to connect to the net. Other users couldn't start it without an error message *sigh*. Then I quit and re-installed (the net saying, that on a clean install SuSE comes with the pasmoid network manager...).

Now I have this problem: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...-users-877756/

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Old 05-02-2011, 10:29 AM   #12
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Novell / SuSE bungled it really royally. The new install didn't work either. Not only that you can't install anything from an installation with a broken network connectivity, that plasmoid thingy doesn't work either. Does still not work on May 1st, to preserve that feat for posterity.

No, you need the Gnome software package. I installed Gnome from which I could connect to the SuSE-site and download the up to now existing updates. They did not work in KDE . But this worked for me: http://mschlander.wordpress.com/2011...opensuse-11-4/ (gets the gnome applet to run in KDE. But one has to force download oxygen-gtk>=1.0.3 via firefox, since yast doesn't do it on its own. Grrr.).

SuSE, go somewhere dark to cry in shame. This was as close as possible to a divorce as it can get.

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Old 05-02-2011, 10:35 AM   #13
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I don't see either the plasmoid software on the DVD. Maybe a carry-over from the earlier 11.3 install?
 
  


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