Is there any real messenger ?
 

Is there any real messenger that support voice and video chat ? Because gaim don't support both and kopete don't support voice .

If you need voice, I recommend a VoIP program like Skype or Ekiga.

So you guys don't talk to your friends how use msn or yahoo ??????????
Skype don't support video chat !!! and i am not going to ask lots of my friend to install another strange software to talk to me ...
What is the wrong linux in this matter ??? It seems that there is no real messenger at all .

I personally use gaim for all my messaging needs, on both Windows and Linux.

It just a text messenger . Am i right ? so you never use voice or video chat ?

Hello ??? How can you people contact msn or yahoo networks with voice and video ?

I don't use it. I just type real fast :D . Amsn has webcam support and a rather easy installer. I'm not sure if it supports audio chatting.

[edit]As the name suggests, aMSN is meant for use on the msn network[/edit]

aMSN did support audio chat for a while using some strange framework I never heard of, then they temporarely disabled the audio chat function, but now it should work again (without that strange framework :) ). aMSN indeed only works for the MSN network and not the Yahoo one. But ehm... Yahoo does provide a linux version of their messenger, shouldn't that one work?

So where is that linux version of yahoo ? .

Ever heard of searching?

http://messenger.yahoo.com/

Yes thank you i heard of searching and the only thing i found is the windows version .
What a system linux is . If there is no good messenger ( There is no simple program like it ) so i guess it will be hell to find other good software for other stuff .
In this case it is impossiple to move to linux or using it .

IMHO, gaim is far superior to the service-provided clients. It has no spyware and advertising in it, for example. I've been using linux almost exclusively for several years and have no problems with anything other than commercial games.

I don't mind the ads and think that there is no spyware in yahoo messenger or msn am i right ?
There is no ads in gaim because it is not a good software .. We are in 2007 and they devlopping a messenger that support only text . Did they heard about cam ?

Well, clicking on that link leads to a web page labeled "UNIX version - Yahoo Messenger". I guess finding Linux software is really going to be hell for you ...

I'm kindof glad it doesn't support cam. It saves me from having to block users that try to open voice/cam connections to me. I'm sure they're going to add cam support eventually, but it's probably not a high priority for them.

My suggestion to you: develop a cam plugin for gaim.

Also... are you implying that having ads makes software good? That makes no sense.

http://us.dl1.yimg.com/download.yaho...ml-0.8.tar.bz2 <--- unix / linux sourcecode.

Agreed There's plenty of good messengers as far as I'm concerned.
Apparently, kopete has webcam support for both MSN and Yahoo: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kopete#Features .

You didn't even search.

of course it is, that's why there are so much Linux users

Oh my god they didn't update this software since 10 years maybe ?
Do you think that this " software " if we can call it like this can contact to people use yahoo messenger 8 ? The old version of yahoo messenger for windows can't now .

Please be honest and tell me do you consider this a messenger ?
http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/2...sgrlist3kj.gif

Why do i need webcam if there is no voice chat ??? So we can read lips ?????

Maybe you should understand some concepts first?

You are not in position to demand anything here - nobody is.
You can develop your own software if there isn't any to satisfy you - this is how all Linux software gets developed.

Some reading.

Looks like a messenger program to me.

GYachI Home Page
http://gyachi.sourceforge.net/index.shtml

Support video and voice chat on Yahoo.

Not everyone uses voice or even webcams to chat. Personally I think either one is annoying if I want to talk to someone I will pick up the phone or use Skype.

If you want Yahoo messenger to support Linux yell at Yahoo same goes for MSN, or just learn how to make your own.

I don't know about voice chat, but aMSN and Mercury for MSN and Gyach (including Gyach-E, GyachI etc.) for Yahoo support webcams.
It doesn't look like a toaster!

It looks like you're confusing all software for linux with some open-source software.

This is so funny. For me it's like christmas everytime they add a feature that I've been looking for. Sometimes I bug the developers, but usually, they're working on it anyway. My expections in open source programs are way lower than what I expect from programs I pay for, but they never seize to amaze me. I know programmers, and I have tried to do it myself, and realized I'm way too stupid, so I have great respect for those who can do it. Most of the people who make those programs have no commercial gain (unless someone donates to their project, or they're paid for by a distributor like suse)... But most of them do it just for the community, and that's admireable.
You shouldn't forget that.

You guys have no sense " no offense " . " Learn how to make your own " What is that ? How will people use linux in this case . You have no sense at all .

heaven... Just look for it.
Have you tried Gyachi yet?

The problem is that MSN and Yahoo apparently didn't make linux clients for their services. So if you want to connect to it from linux, you have to use third party software. Making those programs is not a great job, because you have to figure alot of things out, and the company that made the msn network is unlikely to help you. It's much nicer to expand existing open source chat-networks.

Why is anybody responding to this guy? he obviously hasn't bothered to search, or is willing to do any footwork to help himself. If Linux sucks so bad why are you using it? Windows XP is a couple hundred dollars away and supports all that garbage. I'll bet dollars to donuts that linux does too, but your unwilling to put the time it takes into finding out. Another whiner that wants everybody to use their time to help him, but when the shoes on the other foot he's nowhere to be found.

We've already established that Yahoo do make a linux client. See above.

Try Qnext, it does voice, video, file sharing, the whole shabang and a little more. However the only think I'm not sure of is support per messenger service. This program is written in java so it's not exactly native to linux but it works and for your mac and windows friends it's multiplatform. Suits my needs anyway. Only problem is I'm having trouble finding a download for it until they release version 3. I'll get back to you if I find that download though.

http://www.qnext.com

Ouch!
 

:twocents: Is it just me, or does anyone else cringe when reading Randomthings posts. The syntax is literally painful to take in. Have you tried installing any of the windows versions under wine, crossover office or even Cedega

Update: I apologize, it turns out qnext does not support audio and video per IM protocol only through qnext itself. Sorry.