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05-22-2009, 04:52 AM
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is there a no-X (console based) windows manager?
Like you can run several programs under console, or it could even convert the text of X apps into console ?
Is it just a dream or reality for Linux?
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05-22-2009, 05:12 AM
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forget dvtm, you cannot select the text to do copy paste 
so here a solution :
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Copy / Paste doesn't work in X
If you have mouse support enabled, which is the case with the default settings, you need to hold down shift while selecting and inserting text. In case you don't like this behaviour remove CONFIG_MOUSE from the CFLAGS in config.mk you will however no longer be able to perform other mouse actions like selecting windows etc.
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Last edited by frenchn00b; 05-22-2009 at 05:13 AM.
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05-22-2009, 05:33 AM
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http://vwm.sourceforge.net/ seems promising.
Otherwise, there's GNU Screen, which allows you to have the equivalent of many desktops open within a single virtual terminal.
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05-22-2009, 05:41 AM
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Originally Posted by pwc101
http://vwm.sourceforge.net/ seems promising.
Otherwise, there's GNU Screen, which allows you to have the equivalent of many desktops open within a single virtual terminal.
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What kind of apt-get install XXXXXX, should I do for the :
./configure ; make ; make install
because I have error to compile ...
Code:
.h:125: error: expected â=â, â,â, â;â, âasmâ or â__attribute__â before â*â token
vwm.h:126: error: expected â)â before â*â token
vwm.h:128: error: expected â)â before â*â token
vwm.h:129: error: expected â=â, â,â, â;â, âasmâ or â__attribute__â before âvwm_category_sortâ
vwm.h:132: error: expected â=â, â,â, â;â, âasmâ or â__attribute__â before âvwm_keyring_getâ
vwm.h:133: error: expected â)â before âkeyringâ
vwm.h:134: error: expected â=â, â,â, â;â, âasmâ or â__attribute__â before âvwm_hotkey_setâ
vwm.h:136: error: expected â=â, â,â, â;â, âasmâ or â__attribute__â before âvwm_hotkey_swapâ
vwm.h:138: error: expected â=â, â,â, â;â, âasmâ or â__attribute__â before âvwm_hotkey_runâ
vwm.h:143: error: expected â=â, â,â, â;â, âasmâ or â__attribute__â before â*â token
vwm.h:144: error: expected â)â before â*â token
vwm.h:146: error: expected â=â, â,â, â;â, âasmâ or â__attribute__â before â*â token
vwm.h:148: error: expected â=â, â,â, â;â, âasmâ or â__attribute__â before â*â token
vwm.h:154: error: expected â)â before â*â token
vwm.h:155: error: expected â=â, â,â, â;â, âasmâ or â__attribute__â before â*â token
vwm.h:156: error: expected â)â before âtimeoutâ
vwm.h:157: error: expected â=â, â,â, â;â, âasmâ or â__attribute__â before âvwm_scrsaver_timeout_getâ
vwm.h:160: error: expected â)â before â*â token
vwm_wndlist.c:30:18: error: menu.h: No such file or directory
vwm_wndlist.c:35: error: expected â=â, â,â, â;â, âasmâ or â__attribute__â before â*â token
vwm_wndlist.c:102: error: expected â=â, â,â, â;â, âasmâ or â__attribute__â before âvwm_fmod_wndlist_ON_DESTROYâ
vwm_wndlist.c:134: error: expected â=â, â,â, â;â, âasmâ or â__attribute__â before âvwm_fmod_wndlist_ON_KEYSTROKEâ
make: *** [vwm] Error 1
I have glib 1.2 in the debian stable. so i can forget vwm??
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glib-2.0 was not found
No package 'glib-2.0' found
No package 'gmodule-2.0' found
No package 'gthread-2.0' found
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sounds cool: http://vwm.sourceforge.net/killingtime.png
Last edited by frenchn00b; 05-22-2009 at 05:48 AM.
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05-22-2009, 06:11 AM
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I didn't really understand you last post, but it seems there's no precompiled binary package for vwm in Debian. In which case, you're going to have to roll your own. If, as I think you said, there's a deal-breaker dependency issue, then I'm not sure how you'd proceed.
Have you looked into GNU Screen? I believe it can split a terminal, emulating separate windows.
edit: http://polishlinux.org/howtos/screen-tips-tricks/
Last edited by pwc101; 05-22-2009 at 06:17 AM.
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05-22-2009, 06:17 AM
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Originally Posted by pwc101
I didn't really understand you last post, but it seems there's no precompiled binary package for vwm in Debian. In which case, you're going to have to roll your own. If, as I think you said, there's a deal-breaker dependency issue, then I'm not sure how you'd proceed.
Have you looked into GNU Screen? I believe it can split a terminal, emulating separate windows.
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I tried:
dvtm and screen, well there is also twin but twin is sure of no way. too old.
screen hasnt moving nox-windows |
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05-22-2009, 06:25 AM
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Wow, it seems we've found one of the only pieces of software apparently not available in Debian.
Googling throws this one up too: http://caca.zoy.org/wiki/neercs. No idea of its functionality. |
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05-22-2009, 06:45 AM
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Originally Posted by pwc101
Wow, it seems we've found one of the only pieces of software apparently not available in Debian.
Googling throws this one up too: http://caca.zoy.org/wiki/neercs. No idea of its functionality. |
thanks (I rather like twin like)
libcaca stuffs, I guess i wont manage to install it in a decent time |
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05-22-2009, 11:47 AM
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#9
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LQ Newbie
Registered: May 2009
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Compiling VWM from scratch
VWM author here. Glad to answer build questions if needed.
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05-22-2009, 12:24 PM
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OK hey; is it possible, maybe to add VWM to any distro, like TTYLinux ( http://minimalinux.org/ttylinux/ ) or Slackware?
I have been wanting a text editor for both console and X...maybe VWM can help that in some way...? |
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05-22-2009, 12:34 PM
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@TragicWarrior
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VWM author here. Glad to answer build questions if needed.
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Thank you.
Welcome to LQ! |
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05-22-2009, 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by TragicWarrior
VWM author here. Glad to answer build questions if needed.
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and the author is welcome as this, as a king :
http://www.amma-europe.org/french/20...1_cannes01.jpg
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.h:125: error: expected â=â, â,â, â;â, âasmâ or â__attribute__â before â*â token
vwm.h:126: error: expected â)â before â*â token
vwm.h:128: error: expected â)â before â*â token
vwm.h:129: error: expected â=â, â,â, â;â, âasmâ or â__attribute__â before âvwm_category_sortâ
vwm.h:132: error: expected â=â, â,â, â;â, âasmâ or â__attribute__â before âvwm_keyring_getâ
vwm.h:133: error: expected â)â before âkeyringâ
vwm.h:134: error: expected â=â, â,â, â;â, âasmâ or â__attribute__â before âvwm_hotkey_setâ
vwm.h:136: error: expected â=â, â,â, â;â, âasmâ or â__attribute__â before âvwm_hotkey_swapâ
vwm.h:138: error: expected â=â, â,â, â;â, âasmâ or â__attribute__â before âvwm_hotkey_runâ
vwm.h:143: error: expected â=â, â,â, â;â, âasmâ or â__attribute__â before â*â token
vwm.h:144: error: expected â)â before â*â token
vwm.h:146: error: expected â=â, â,â, â;â, âasmâ or â__attribute__â before â*â token
vwm.h:148: error: expected â=â, â,â, â;â, âasmâ or â__attribute__â before â*â token
vwm.h:154: error: expected â)â before â*â token
vwm.h:155: error: expected â=â, â,â, â;â, âasmâ or â__attribute__â before â*â token
vwm.h:156: error: expected â)â before âtimeoutâ
vwm.h:157: error: expected â=â, â,â, â;â, âasmâ or â__attribute__â before âvwm_scrsaver_timeout_getâ
vwm.h:160: error: expected â)â before â*â token
vwm_wndlist.c:30:18: error: menu.h: No such file or directory
vwm_wndlist.c:35: error: expected â=â, â,â, â;â, âasmâ or â__attribute__â before â*â token
vwm_wndlist.c:102: error: expected â=â, â,â, â;â, âasmâ or â__attribute__â before âvwm_fmod_wndlist_ON_DESTROYâ
vwm_wndlist.c:134: error: expected â=â, â,â, â;â, âasmâ or â__attribute__â before âvwm_fmod_wndlist_ON_KEYSTROKEâ
make: *** [vwm] Error 1
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error are that debian stable hasnt libtoolize and glib 2.0 is not in debian stable. that will break it, partic,. for frenchnoob. |
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05-22-2009, 03:28 PM
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LQ Newbie
Registered: May 2009
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Text editor
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Originally Posted by linus72
OK hey; is it possible, maybe to add VWM to any distro, like TTYLinux ( http://minimalinux.org/ttylinux/ ) or Slackware?
I have been wanting a text editor for both console and X...maybe VWM can help that in some way...? |
The nano text editor with color syntax highlighting runs quite well in VWM and quite a bit of development that way. |
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05-22-2009, 03:45 PM
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In reply to the pm, the code of the error is here as with:
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pwc101 View Post
http://vwm.sourceforge.net/ seems promising.
Otherwise, there's GNU Screen, which allows you to have the equivalent of many desktops open within a single virtual terminal.
What kind of apt-get install XXXXXX, should I do for the :
./configure ; make ; make install
because I have error to compile ...
Code:
.h:125: error: expected â=â, â,â, â;â, âasmâ or â__attribute__â before â*â token
vwm.h:126: error: expected â)â before â*â token
vwm.h:128: error: expected â)â before â*â token
vwm.h:129: error: expected â=â, â,â, â;â, âasmâ or â__attribute__â before âvwm_category_sortâ
vwm.h:132: error: expected â=â, â,â, â;â, âasmâ or â__attribute__â before âvwm_keyring_getâ
vwm.h:133: error: expected â)â before âkeyringâ
vwm.h:134: error: expected â=â, â,â, â;â, âasmâ or â__attribute__â before âvwm_hotkey_setâ
vwm.h:136: error: expected â=â, â,â, â;â, âasmâ or â__attribute__â before âvwm_hotkey_swapâ
vwm.h:138: error: expected â=â, â,â, â;â, âasmâ or â__attribute__â before âvwm_hotkey_runâ
vwm.h:143: error: expected â=â, â,â, â;â, âasmâ or â__attribute__â before â*â token
vwm.h:144: error: expected â)â before â*â token
vwm.h:146: error: expected â=â, â,â, â;â, âasmâ or â__attribute__â before â*â token
vwm.h:148: error: expected â=â, â,â, â;â, âasmâ or â__attribute__â before â*â token
vwm.h:154: error: expected â)â before â*â token
vwm.h:155: error: expected â=â, â,â, â;â, âasmâ or â__attribute__â before â*â token
vwm.h:156: error: expected â)â before âtimeoutâ
vwm.h:157: error: expected â=â, â,â, â;â, âasmâ or â__attribute__â before âvwm_scrsaver_timeout_getâ
vwm.h:160: error: expected â)â before â*â token
vwm_wndlist.c:30:18: error: menu.h: No such file or directory
vwm_wndlist.c:35: error: expected â=â, â,â, â;â, âasmâ or â__attribute__â before â*â token
vwm_wndlist.c:102: error: expected â=â, â,â, â;â, âasmâ or â__attribute__â before âvwm_fmod_wndlist_ON_DESTROYâ
vwm_wndlist.c:134: error: expected â=â, â,â, â;â, âasmâ or â__attribute__â before âvwm_fmod_wndlist_ON_KEYSTROKEâ
make: *** [vwm] Error 1
I have glib 1.2 in the debian stable. so i can forget vwm??
Quote:
glib-2.0 was not found
No package 'glib-2.0' found
No package 'gmodule-2.0' found
No package 'gthread-2.0' found
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Debian stable hasnt enough packages, is it possible to downgrade the vwm, to let it work on stable debian (ref.) or whatever linux trick eventually?
thank you
best regards
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]:$~>apt-cache search glib | grep glib | grep dev
libavahi-glib-dev - Development headers for the Avahi glib integration library
libdbus-glib-1-dev - simple interprocess messaging system (GLib interface)
libglib-java-dev - Java bindings for GLib (development files)
libglib1.2-dev - The GLib library of C routines (development)
libglib2.0-dev - Development files for the GLib library
libglibmm-2.4-dev - C++ wrapper for the GLib toolkit (development files)
libglrr-glib-dev - Development library of Grift (glib)
libgsnmp0-dev - an SNMP library implementation based on glib and gnet (development files)
libjson-glib-dev - GLib JSON manipulation library (development files)
libnm-glib-dev - network management framework (GLib interface)
libpoppler-glib-dev - PDF rendering library -- development files (GLib interface)
libsofia-sip-ua-glib-dev - Sofia-SIP library glib/gobject interface development files
libtaglib-ocaml-dev - OCaml bindings for the TagLib Audio Meta-Data Library
libtelepathy-glib-dev - GLib Telepathy connection manager library (headers)
libxmmsclient++-glib-dev - XMMS2 - glib client library for c++ - development files
libxmmsclient-glib-dev - XMMS2 - glib client library - development files
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Last edited by frenchn00b; 05-22-2009 at 03:47 PM.
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05-22-2009, 04:01 PM
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Location: Olympia, WA, USA
Distribution: Fedora, (K)Ubuntu
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Have any of you tried the venerable emacs system? IIRC it can do an awful lot of the WM stuff using its "buffers" as windows.
There is also the elinks no-X browser available, which I've sometimes found handy when trying to find a driver to get X working.
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