Is BleachBit dead?

Paraply · 07-24-2017, 06:06 PM

Hi,
I've been using BleachBit for a long time and found it useful for cleaning out unneeded files. Beginning perhaps two years ago, I get hundereds(!) of lines of warnings during and after a system update, like these:

Quote:

warning: could not get file information for usr/share/locale/af/
warning: could not get file information for for usr/share/locale/ast/LC_MESSAGES/bison-runtime.mo
warning: could not get file information for usr/share/locale/de/LC_MESSAGES/paperwork.mo

...and so on.

Does this mean BleacBit is no longer maintained and therefore 'missing' some changes in Linux, or is there something I have missed to configure? It never showed this behaviour the first years I used it.

I might also mention that I never got BleachBit to handle Firefox well (the bookmarks disappeared).

It would be interesting to know if anyone has new information, or an opinion, of this handy little utility. Also, are there any good alternatives?

I use Arch Linux.

rokytnji · 07-24-2017, 06:49 PM

I never use bleachbit. But if wanting to poke around. I would

Code:

harry@biker:~
$ cd /usr/share/locale/
harry@biker:/usr/share/locale
$ ls
af        ca           en@cyrillic  fo   it            lv     oc     sq        tt@iqtelif
am        ca@valencia  en_GB        fr   ja            mai    or     sr        tt_RU
an        ce           en@greek     fur  ja_JP         mg     pa     sr@ije    ug
ang       ceb          en@hebrew    fy   ka            mhr    pl     sr@latin  uk
ar        ckb          en_NZ        ga   kg            mi     ps     sr@Latn   ur
ar_EG     crh          en@piglatin  gd   kk            mk     pt     sv        ur_PK
as        cs           en@quot      gez  km            ml     pt_BR  sv_SE     uz
ast       csb          en@shaw      gl   kn            mn     pt_PT  sw        uz@cyrillic
az        cy           en_UK        gu   ko            mr     qu     szl       ve
az_IR     da           en_US        gv   kok           ms     rm     ta        vi
bal       de           eo           haw  ko_KR         mt     ro     ta_LK     wa
be        de_CH        es           he   ks            my     ru     te        wal
be@latin  de_DE        es_AR        hi   ku            nb     rw     tet       wo
bg        de@hebrew    es_ES        hr   ky            nb_NO  sc     tg        xh
bg_BG     dv           et           hrx  la            nds    sd     th        yi
bn        dz           et_EE        ht   lb            ne     se     ti        zh
bn_IN     el           eu           hu   lg            nhn    shn    tig       zh_CN
bo        en           fa           hy   li            nl     si     tk        zh_CN.GB2312
br        en@arabic    fa_IR        ia   lo            nl_NL  sk     tl        zh_HK
bs        en_AU        fi           id   locale.alias  nn     sl     tl_PH     zh_TW
bs_BA     en@boldquot  fi_FI        io   lt            no     so     tr        zh_TW.Big5
byn       en_CA        fil          is   ltg           nso    sp     tt        zu
harry@biker:/usr/share/locale
$ cd as
harry@biker:/usr/share/locale/as
$ ls
LC_MESSAGES
harry@biker:/usr/share/locale/as
$ cd LC_MESSAGES/
harry@biker:/usr/share/locale/as/LC_MESSAGES
$ ls
atk10.mo                      gtk20-properties.mo  libgtop-2.0.mo            vte-0.0.mo
file-roller.mo                gtk30.mo             libsecret.mo              vte-2.90.mo
GConf2.mo                     gtk30-properties.mo  libwnck-3.0.mo            WebKitGTK-2.0.mo
gdk-pixbuf.mo                 iso_3166.mo          Linux-PAM.mo              xdg-user-dirs.mo
glib-networking.mo            iso_639.mo           mlocate.mo
gsettings-desktop-schemas.mo  json-glib-1.0.mo     newt.mo
gtk20.mo                      libgnome-keyring.mo  system-config-printer.mo

jefro · 07-24-2017, 07:52 PM

I assume bleachbit is somewhat current for most distro's.

Kinda looks like you are missing files from the OS.

I get the feeling that bleachbit worked and cleaned out files.

AwesomeMachine · 07-24-2017, 10:10 PM

The latest beta was released 2/25/2017. So, it seems pretty current.

Paraply · 07-25-2017, 07:00 AM

Thank you for the responses!

I use BleachBit v. 1.12. I have reinstalled it, but doubt that will change anything.
It seems to work well, it is all the warnings I get during updates after I have run it that irritates me

I am starting to think I may be missing a system file.

hydrurga · 07-25-2017, 07:20 AM

Are you running bleachbit as root or non-root?

Could you let us know which applications you have marked as "active" (or "inactive" if easier) in the settings?

Also, just to confirm, are those warning messages you gave an example of in your opening post produced solely on a system update? Are there any warning or error messages produced when you run Bleachbit itself?

Just confirmation that I'm running v1.12 (albeit on Mint 18.2) both as root and non-root with no problems.

Paraply · 07-25-2017, 07:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rokytnji

I never use bleachbit. But if wanting to poke around. I would

(...)

I did as you suggested and found some differences.
My "/usr/share/locale" does not have the subdirectory "as", hence no "/usr/share/locale/as/LC_MESSAGES".
Instead there's a directory for each locale, each with a subdirectory "LC_MESSAGES", e.g.
"/usr/share/locale/en/LC_MESSAGES/".

So this may be the explanation and I guess only the BleachBit maintainer can fix it.

Thanks for helping me notice this!

Paraply · 07-25-2017, 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hydrurga

Are you running bleachbit as root or non-root?

Could you let us know which applications you have marked as "active" (or "inactive" if easier) in the settings?

Also, just to confirm, are those warning messages you gave an example of in your opening post produced solely on a system update? Are there any warning or error messages produced when you run Bleachbit itself?

Just confirmation that I'm running v1.12 (albeit on Mint 18.2) both as root and non-root with no problems.

Please see my reply to 'rokytnji' just now, regarding different locales setup.
Of course, I cannot be sure the difference is the cause, since he says he has never used BleachBit...

I run with everything active, except for Firefox and a couple of "experimental" harddisk and memory scannings.
BleachBit runs without a hitch, with no warnings or error messages. The warnings only come up during system updates.
I use to run as root first, and then as user.

After the next run of BleachBit I shall check if it has deleted the (possibly unrecognized) LC_MESSAGES subdirectory in each locale.

hydrurga · 07-25-2017, 08:37 AM

Ok. The reason that I asked which programs you have marked as "active" is that I have had problems in the past with cleaning certain programs and sub-sections.

As a result, when running BleachBit as root, in the System section I do not mark Broken desktop files, Custom, Free disk space, Localisations (perhaps very relevant to your issue), and Memory. Nor do I mark any of the Deep Scan options.

Paraply · 07-25-2017, 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hydrurga

Ok. The reason that I asked which programs you have marked as "active" is that I have had problems in the past with cleaning certain programs and sub-sections.

As a result, when running BleachBit as root, in the System section I do not mark Broken desktop files, Custom, Free disk space, Localisations (perhaps very relevant to your issue), and Memory. Nor do I mark any of the Deep Scan options.

Hi hydrurga,
in root I exempt Security-copied files, Free diskspace, Memory, and Custom.
in userspace I exempt all of Firefox, passwords in Google Chrome (beta) and Thunderbird, Security-copied files, Free diskspace, Memory, and Custom.

Yes, I will try un-marking Localisations. It will take some time before I can be sure of any effect, as the system seems to rebuild the lost files with successive updates, resulting in gradually fewer warnings.

Thanks for the heads up!