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Old 01-01-2004, 08:35 AM   #1
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Internet connected ,email works, but no web pages


Hi all
This is quite weird. I was able to get dialup working at home by stopping the shorewall as per advise by many of you in one of my previous post. Now, I have changed my ISP now the same settings don't open the web page . Though I am able to read my email on an IMAP server. So I assume the connection is OK and also my kppp shows I am connected and my phone line gives usual busy signal of internet.
BUT
none of the webpages open up.This is true even with text based browsers.
Anybody has faced such problem. Any idea to get it working. The current settings still open pages for my older ISP if I try to connect it thru him.
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Old 01-01-2004, 09:12 AM   #2
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hmm...have you checked if DNS is set up correctly? When I first set up my internet connection on this machine, something got wrong and my DNS settings didn't work out before I set them again....

and, oh yeah - what do you get when you try to open some url? does it tell you anything (like "error 404" when a page is not found, as we all know ) useful?

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Old 01-01-2004, 09:29 AM   #3
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sounds to me like your new isp uses an http proxy, send them an email to find out the proxy server information and then add the settings to your browser.
 
Old 01-01-2004, 09:54 AM   #4
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Hi guys
Ok I must add that the same setting works on OSX without the need of other information about proxy etc. I will ask the ISP about it. i will check the error message for 404 and post the results.
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Old 01-01-2004, 10:08 AM   #5
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ok, the way to check if it is a http proxy or not is to find out what ip your http requests are coming from, in system with net working goto www.whatismyip.com then check this against ip of the modem (i have no idea how to do this in OSX but in XP run ipconfig /all)
 
Old 01-01-2004, 10:40 AM   #6
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Hi there
I went to the site and my IP is 82.209.91.54 .Well I checked this thru my Mac as I am not able to use linux machine to read any website. So if I connect Linux machine where should I look for this?
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Old 01-01-2004, 11:18 AM   #7
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that wont work you need to compare the ip's during the same connection because when you dial up again your ip is different, ask a mac person how to find the ip of your modem connection
 
Old 01-01-2004, 11:54 AM   #8
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Hiya
Here is the output of ifconfig of Mac OSX. i guess the last few line refer to my modem connection. I must tell that this is on a laptop where at work I use LAN and at home I try to use the dial up whioch is the problem that I have mentioned. So I would like that nothing should go worng when I take it to work. Please let me know what you make out of proxy thingi.

[ssaurya@Shreesh-Sauryas-Computer]~ 506 % ifconfig
lo0: flags=8049<UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING,MULTICAST> mtu 16384
inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128
inet6 fe80::1 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1
inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000
gif0: flags=8010<POINTOPOINT,MULTICAST> mtu 1280
stf0: flags=0<> mtu 1280
en0: flags=8863<UP,BROADCAST,SMART,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
ether 00:0a:95:b9:28:86
media: autoselect (none) status: inactive
supported media: none autoselect 10baseT/UTP <half-duplex> 10baseT/UTP <full-duplex> 10baseT/UTP <full-duplex,hw-loopback> 100baseTX <half-duplex> 100baseTX <full-duplex> 100baseTX <full-duplex,hw-loopback> 1000baseTX <full-duplex> 1000baseTX <full-duplex,hw-loopback> 1000baseTX <full-duplex,flow-control> 1000baseTX <full-duplex,flow-control,hw-loopback>
en1: flags=8822<BROADCAST,SMART,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
tunnel inet -->
ether 00:0a:95:f2:06:61
media: autoselect (<unknown type>) status: inactive
supported media: autoselect
fw0: flags=8822<BROADCAST,SMART,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 4078
tunnel inet -->
lladdr 00:0a:95:ff:fe:b9:28:86
media: autoselect <full-duplex> status: inactive
supported media: autoselect <full-duplex>
ppp0: flags=8051<UP,POINTOPOINT,RUNNING,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
inet 82.209.88.139 --> 213.130.146.195 netmask 0xff000000
 
Old 01-01-2004, 12:52 PM   #9
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by saurya_s
inet 82.209.88.139

you have to do the whatismyip check and the ifconfig check during the same connection because as i said each time you dial you get a different ip but ive done a reverse dns on both and neither resolve so i doubt its a proxy.
 
Old 01-01-2004, 02:54 PM   #10
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Hiya
Well this all is on Mac.
whatismyip out put :82.209.88.34
last few line of my ifconfig output on Mac is
ppp0: flags=8051<UP,POINTOPOINT,RUNNING,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
inet 82.209.88.34 --> 213.130.146.195 netmask 0xff000000
Please notice what I have told is output from Mac not from Linux machine.
So what does it mean? Is this has to do with the ISP ?
What should I ask the ISP to provide me with for my linux machine.
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Old 01-01-2004, 05:51 PM   #11
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the numbers are the same which means it definatly isnt a proxy/isp problem. the problem is on your linux machine, now you say everything works apart from web, how sure are you of this? can you try out a few other protocols like ftp, ssh, pop3, imap, smtp.
 
Old 01-01-2004, 06:19 PM   #12
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Ok, I can read my emails which are on my IMAP server, though I can't send as my smtp doesn't allow that. I will try ftp and will let you know the result.
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Old 01-01-2004, 06:25 PM   #13
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you can check smtp by telnetting to any mail server, use mine if you want

telnet khn.homelinux.net 25

is your imap server being accessed by name or ip?
 
Old 01-01-2004, 07:14 PM   #14
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Hi kev
Let me make things a little easier. Right I work at Oxford Univ where i use my machione on their LAN.earlier I had their dial up for home use as well, due to some reason I have changed to the new one which is causing the mentioned problem.
now with the new one
1. I am able to acces my work email IMAp thoug I cant' send as routing is not allowed.
2. FTP/telnet and SSH only work to the sites in Oxford Univ domain. When i try other host outside it , it doesn't work.
3.My IMAp is configured by name . I use Thunderbird in my machine both at work and home and it is getting the emails even from home thru new ISP.
I haven't tried the telnet address you gave me.
Will try and post the result.
Thanks
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Old 01-01-2004, 07:41 PM   #15
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so you dial up to your new isp number which is totally unrelated to oxford yet you can only connect to servers in the oxford domain? i find that very confusing, let me sleep on it.
 
  


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