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Old 01-17-2003, 12:11 PM   #1
bryand
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Question Installing on a second hard drive...


I need some help trying to install Mandrake 9.0 on a second hard drive in my computer.

I've used Microsoft Windows for years and don't feel comfortable leaving it entirely. I've heard great things about Linux, so I figured it was time to let it speak for itself.

Recently I tried installing Mandrake on a partition off my primary hard drive. I used PartitionMagic 8.0 Eventually, however, that all fell apart and I had to reformat and reinstall windows. I've purchased a small 20gig HD to put in for Mandrake though.

I've been searching the internet for some "how to's" related to this task, but haven't been very successful. If at all possible, I'd like to use the windows bootloader (if you can even call it that) because at this point in time I still want Windows to be in control of as much as possible. Someone suggested modifying the "boot.ini" file under windows, but they were unable to tell me HOW to modify it.

Any suggestions anyone may have is always appreciated!
Thanks!

ALSO, one more thing. I'm at college and my university provides wireless internet access to all students living on campus. I have a wireless USB device, but how in the world do I make it work with the campus wireless internet?

The Confused One,
Bryan
 
Old 01-17-2003, 01:00 PM   #2
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The best way I've found to do it is to TOTAL seperating the two operating systems, not use the normal dual boot setup. This requires going into my bios and change what drive i boot from.

-first install windows on first drive
-Make that drive the primary slave
-install the linux drive as primary master (unplugging windows drive)
-install linux using the whole drive.
-plug windows drive back in.

To switch operating systems, go into the bios and select the first boot device to be drive 0 for linux or drive 1 for windows.

Upside to this setup is, neither operating system has any clue the other exists. I like this as my son can game on the system with no chance of him messing up my linux setup.

Downside, you have to go into the bios to change which system boots.

I *think* I did this with Windows XP but It could have been Win98.
 
Old 01-17-2003, 01:26 PM   #3
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You should still have linux on the first drive, I don't think formats get rid of partitions just erases the partition you do it in. So you just need to tell the bootloader where linux is. I don't think the windows bootloader will work, you need to put the cd/dvd in & choose rescue mode. Try http://www.linuxnewbie.org/ or search for Gag on google that is a boot manager.

Last edited by Edward78; 01-17-2003 at 01:29 PM.
 
Old 01-17-2003, 04:15 PM   #4
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I'm of the opinion that the boot loader's job is to let me select which operating system I want to use; if I have to change the BIOS or unplug a drive, I don't think I have a dual-boot system--I have two single boot systems.

You've done some research, so tell me which of the bootloaders you want to use & why. If you understand the three options well enough to tell me which one (in your opinion) is better, I'll take the time to walk you through how to install it.

If not, maybe our first exchange should be about the pros and cons of each.

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Old 01-17-2003, 05:37 PM   #5
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Agreed, it is two single boot systems.

I prefer having it that way for the simple reason that neither operating system relies on what the other did the the boot loader. I can re-install either one should I choose to and not have to worry about the bootup being messed up. That is important if I'm experimenting with operating systems.

Changing the bios is not a major issue for some. The only reason I mention unplugging the windows drive during the linux install is so you can't accidentaly overwrite it doing the linux install.

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I'm of the opinion that the boot loader's job is to let me select which operating system I want to use; if I have to change the BIOS or unplug a drive, I don't think I have a dual-boot system--I have two single boot systems.
 
Old 01-17-2003, 05:44 PM   #6
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Check out Tiger.com--they have something called a Trios that you might be interested in.
 
Old 01-18-2003, 12:26 PM   #7
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Talking

bryand,

I had a problem similar to yours and here is how I solved it:

For Linux:

a) Made root and boot floppy disks for the Linux install.
b) Used PartitionMagic (ver 6.0) to define the Linux and Swap
partitions in my second hard drive.
c) Made the Windows partition inactive so I could install Linux.
Made sure to create a boot disk during the install.

For Windows:

a) In the file MSDOS.SYS chaged the line to tell Windows to
start in GUI mode (1) to 0 so it stays in DOS 7.0 (I use Win 95).

Now whenever I want to start Win, I just enter WIN at the DOS
prompt. If on the other hand I want linux, I use my boot disk. I have not had any problems going from one OS to the other. I
still need Windows because I need to complete some personal
tasks this year (such as taxes, etc.) and have not discovered
how to do it in Linux yet. However, I expect that by next year
I will be Microsoft free. Hope this helped. By the way, you
should be able to use PartitionMagic to do what I outlined here.
I used version 6 which is compatible with Win NT 4 Workstation;
if you are running NT 4 Server, I do not know if my method is
a valid one. Cheers !
 
Old 01-18-2003, 10:57 PM   #8
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bryand,
I need to make a correction: disregard step a) for Windows.
You really do not have to modify the file MSDOS.SYS. Your
Linux boot floppy will be enough to let boot Linux provided that
your bios has the floppy as the first device to boot from. Hope
this helps. Cheers !
 
  


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