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Old 06-05-2001, 02:16 AM   #1
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two drive system hda win98
hdb linux
lilo broken on hda floppy boot works fine but no hda
tried lilo.config i keep geting no perrmission to save file
i did read the how to files.
 
Old 06-05-2001, 03:11 AM   #2
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two drive system hda win98
hdb linux
lilo broken on hda floppy boot works fine but no hda
tried lilo.config i keep geting no perrmission to save file
i did read the how to files.
When you say 'no hda' do you mean that no device hda can be found (hda1, hda2, etc...) or that you can't use the MBR on hda, or that you can't see you windows 98 partition, or that you can't boot from hda, or that the floppy boot works but you can't create the lilo.conf???

If you have no permission to save the file, is this because you have mounted the broken filesystem 'read-only' after your boot from floppy and have not remounted it rw (read/write)?

mount -n -o remount,rw /

You'll need to supply more specific info or you will succumb to the ancient (1970's ???) unbreakable laws of GIGO. Failure to comply will result in random beatings by the ghost of Grace Hopper and lower your gas mileage by at least 30 percent.
 
Old 06-06-2001, 02:26 AM   #3
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When you say 'no hda'(could not load win 98 )(nor could i load linux )
do you mean that no device hda can be found (hda1, hda2, etc...) or that you can't use the MBR on hda,(thats it)

or that you can't see you windows 98 partition, or that you can't boot from hda, or that the


floppy boot works but you can't create the lilo.conf???
(i edited lilo to add win98 to boot but when i save it i get no permission to save it

If you have no permission to save the file,
is this because you have mounted the broken filesystem 'read-only' (maybe)
after your boot from floppy and have not remounted it rw (read/write)?

mount -n -o remount,rw /(on the next go around i got two machines left)

i cheated on this one i ran windows setup i will use the floppy boot for now, i dont need to pass data yet, its taken me 10 years to learn win so this will do for now thank you

You'll need to supply more specific info or you will succumb to the ancient (1970's ???) unbreakable laws of GIGO. Failure to comply will result in random beatings by the ghost of Grace Hopper and lower your gas mileage by at least 30 percent. [/B][/QUOTE]
 
Old 06-06-2001, 09:14 PM   #4
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When you edited lilo.conf, did you do it as root? You have to be root to save it.
 
Old 06-08-2001, 02:03 AM   #5
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install lilo

i have installed linux on two computers now both with dual drives.
1) pent 111 1.2 g
win drive is three dos ext total 5 g byt (linux sees it as a full no room left hda
drive no 2. 3 g byt, dos or win cant see it or rather its a non dos disk
2) linux drive. 3 g byt or hdb automatic partitioning rewrite all linux partitions no harm to existing dos almost a full install

(mbr) was writen over on hda (boomer)
the start disk was the one that was created at time of install

no dos no win no work cant get online for help.
booted linux from start disk log on as user started x
noome edit sign in as super user
edit file to add dos to lilo(you cant edit file unless you are signed in as root)?????
saved file no permision
saved file as no problem can move it any where
but i cant save it or rename it lilo.config

new question can the menue on dos start(config.sys )
be used to start a linux session on a drive it cant see as dos
 
Old 06-08-2001, 06:10 PM   #6
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OK. Let's see if I got this straight. You logged in as root and you edited lilo.conf. When you tried to save it, you got an error indicating that you had no permission. It sounds to me like the permissions on the lilo.conf have been changed so that you don't have ' write ' permission. Log in as root and run this commmand ' chmod u+w /etc/lilo.conf '. This will give root ' write ' permission. Then edit the file again as root and try to save it.

Now about editing the file as a user, you can edit the file all you want, but you can't save the changes back to the file because you have no permission to write to it. The lilo.conf is an important file therefore ordinary users are restricted from editing and saving back to the file. As a user, you can edit the file and save it to a different file name . There's no problem with that because you aren't saving it back to the original file. You are creating a new file that the user will own. But as I said before, you must be root to edit AND save back to the file.


Please explain your setup again. I don't follow what you described here:

1) pent 111 1.2 g
win drive is three dos ext total 5 g byt (linux sees it as a full no room left hda
drive no 2. 3 g byt, dos or win cant see it or rather its a non dos disk
2) linux drive. 3 g byt or hdb automatic partitioning rewrite all linux partitions no harm to existing dos almost a full install

What is ' pent 111 ' and what is ' ext '. I think you are saying that you have 1.2G and 3G hard drives. I'm not following your description very well. I'm kind of new to linux too.


 
Old 06-08-2001, 07:00 PM   #7
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install lilo

1) pent 111 1.2 g
ok its a amd athalon 1200 mhz type machine i put it together myself
2)the first drive is a 5g drive the dos partitions are ext
or windows see it as 3 drives there are no linux partitions on it.

the secound drive is a 3 gbyt drive this drive is the one i am putting linux on . the linux red hat install sees this drive as hdb it does see the first drive as hda but cant

goto go sorry
 
Old 06-08-2001, 08:23 PM   #8
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OK. You have a 5g and a 3g hard drives. The first is for windows and the second for linux. You have 3 partitions on the 5g drive. What does ' ext ' mean? Do you mean that the partitons are extended partitions? Your 5g hard drive is seen by linux as the primary master and your 3g hard drive is seen as the primary slave. Ok so far.
 
Old 06-09-2001, 02:05 AM   #9
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install lilo

ok thank you
yes dos extented

linux install cant read hda and yes i tried chmod and that does work i changed my lilo i have not tried it for real yet i was reading the threads here at linuxquestions and other help sites and linux shure does have a lot of ~bugs ~
and for me to continue useing my buissness machine i think that would be to risky so i am going put time on the networked home machine

simple thats a pent 133 1.2 g byt dos drive 1
and drive 2 is 3 g byt same game ?? no not that easy
linux install doesnt work with the cd drive
should i try a network install? in dos that would be simple
this is not dos
ps. i can start the work machine with a floopy to study linux a least maybe next year i can try it again.
thank you for your help mike.
 
Old 06-09-2001, 11:54 PM   #10
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That's a good idea to put linux on your home computer. Linux installations can sometimes destroy data on hard drives. That's why they tell you to make backups.

When you say that linux can't install from the cd on your home computer, do you mean that it won't automatically run your linux cd install program? Some older computers won't boot from the cdrom. On some computers you can get the cdrom to boot up by changing the settings in your computer's BIOS. If you can't do that, then use your boot floppy disk along with the cdrom disk to install linux. Just put the floppy disk and cdrom disk in and boot up the computer. And hopefully it will install it. Good luck.

[Edited by linuxcool on 06-09-2001 at 11:56 PM]
 
  


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