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Old 02-28-2012, 10:36 AM   #1
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Question IE on linux using wine?


Hello,
Is it possible to install &/or run Internet Explorer 10 on Linux operating system?
I am using Debian Linux operating system. My system is rather old, so wine just froze when i tried to open the msi. Has anyone tried this?

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Old 02-28-2012, 10:41 AM   #2
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Hello,
Is it possible to install &/or run Internet Explorer 10 on Linux operating system?
I am using Debian Linux operating system. My system is rather old, so wine just froze when i tried to open the msi. Has anyone tried this?

Thanks!
You can always go to http://www.winehq.com, and check for application support. For what it's worth, IE 9 is the last version on there, and it was rated "Garbage"...as in, doesn't work very well/at all. I can't imagine that 10 would be better.

Also, if your system is rather old, you'd do far better running a native application...why do you need IE at all? You can run Firefox, Opera, Konqueror, and Chrome, just to name a few. ALL better browsers than IE.
 
Old 02-28-2012, 10:48 AM   #3
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I want to have only Debian on my system. But, i do need IE to test my web content's display & my bank portal works properly only with IE. So, wanted to find some way to have IE 10 on Linux.
 
Old 02-28-2012, 11:11 AM   #4
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I want to have only Debian on my system. But, i do need IE to test my web content's display & my bank portal works properly only with IE. So, wanted to find some way to have IE 10 on Linux.
Ok...again, IE 10 isn't listed on the WINE compatibility list, and most versions are listed as GARBAGE. You could try to load VirtualBox, and get Windows running in a virtual machine, and use it that way, but if your system is old, it'll be VERY slow.

You can always load the Firefox user-agent switcher add-on, and tell it to appear to be IE with your bank's website, and chances are it'll work just fine. Also, if you're writing code to accommodate IE, that's a bad move, in my opinion. All you're doing is trying to write around a poorly written browser, to try to make things work. If it obeyed web-standards, you'd not have to do ANYTHING different.
 
Old 02-28-2012, 11:32 AM   #5
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Ok...again, IE 10 isn't listed on the WINE compatibility list, and most versions are listed as GARBAGE. You could try to load VirtualBox, and get Windows running in a virtual machine, and use it that way, but if your system is old, it'll be VERY slow.

You can always load the Firefox user-agent switcher add-on, and tell it to appear to be IE with your bank's website, and chances are it'll work just fine. Also, if you're writing code to accommodate IE, that's a bad move, in my opinion. All you're doing is trying to write around a poorly written browser, to try to make things work. If it obeyed web-standards, you'd not have to do ANYTHING different.
Ideologically speaking it is a bad move but try to explain it to your clients who pay your invoices that the browser they and their customers are using is not worth consideration. I'm sure they will accept it with understanding and admiration for your coding purity

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Old 02-28-2012, 11:37 AM   #6
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Have you seen this site?

http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page

IE 4 Linux.
 
Old 02-28-2012, 11:39 AM   #7
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You can probably run IE 8 and use your bank's portal, or even IE 7, which at least gets a bronze at winehq. The bleeding edge usually doesn't run so well, but IE 6, which runs pretty well, is also security challenged at this point, and probably no longer functioning at your bank.
 
Old 02-28-2012, 12:47 PM   #8
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tatanka.com seemed very promising. Especially, when i read their target audience text. But, sadly its for IE 6 and less (http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/...s_4_Linux_work)

I also checked out the appDB on winehq, nothing on IE10, and IE9 is commented as garbage (as in not working.)
http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManage...ication&iId=25
 
Old 02-28-2012, 12:52 PM   #9
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tatanka.com seemed very promising. Especially, when i read their target audience text. But, sadly its for IE 6 and less (http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/...s_4_Linux_work)

I also checked out the appDB on winehq, nothing on IE10, and IE9 is commented as garbage (as in not working.)
http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManage...ication&iId=25
I know it's not a very convenient solution, but your best bet would be to install Windows in a virtual machine. I was Window-less for 4 years, but then I had to install it in a VM for work purposes. Not ideal, but does the job (mostly testing web sites).
 
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Ideollogically speaking it is a bad move but try to explain it to your clients who pay your invoices that the browser they and their customers are using is not worth consideration. I'm sure they will accept it with understanding and admiration for your coding purity
Hehe...actually, I do it all the time.

Honestly, I do have that conversation, and when folks become adamant about it, all I do is inform them of WHY I don't (security holes, poor speed/browsing experience, lack of standards support, etc.), then say those are the VERY reasons I support most of the other browsers. If they insist, I usually turn down the business, because I don't want to get into the administrative headaches that come with IE support, and the bad code needed to support it. I've only ever lost the business of three clients (that I know of) because of it. A disclaimer (much like MANY websites have), such as "This website requires a standards-compliant browser, such as Firefox x.x, Opera x.x, to function), does the trick.

If they want to shoehorn in support for a broken browser after the fact, that's their business.
 
Old 02-28-2012, 06:09 PM   #11
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Hehe...actually, I do it all the time.

Honestly, I do have that conversation, and when folks become adamant about it, all I do is inform them of WHY I don't (security holes, poor speed/browsing experience, lack of standards support, etc.), then say those are the VERY reasons I support most of the other browsers. If they insist, I usually turn down the business, because I don't want to get into the administrative headaches that come with IE support, and the bad code needed to support it. I've only ever lost the business of three clients (that I know of) because of it. A disclaimer (much like MANY websites have), such as "This website requires a standards-compliant browser, such as Firefox x.x, Opera x.x, to function), does the trick.

If they want to shoehorn in support for a broken browser after the fact, that's their business.
Good for you I wish I would but I don't think I'm in a position (yet) to turn down businesses on those grounds. Most of the websites I've created (not that many actually) are aimed at educational organisations which, as I've noticed, are usually locked in in MS products so unfortunately it's essential for a website to be rendered properly in IE. As far as the disclaimer is concerned, I've got one on my own website.
 
  


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