Hello,

I'm using the latest debian testing and want a desktop enviroment that morons can use.

I recently got sick of my custom enlightenment / gnome desktop and moved to kde. Then today after problems with konquer and kwin (I know its in testing for a reason) I decided that I dont want to use any software that starts with the letter k for a few days.

I've moved to the default gnome setup. I dont mind sawfish but it is annoying me with its window behaviour.

I want to basicly make it work like windows - like kde did when I configured it.

I'd like minimise, maximise and close buttons but the main thing is double click to maximise (which nothing seems to do). Personally I dont see the point of shaded windows. It would be nice to get middle click to send to back too - like afterstep used to do.

Does anyone know if its possible to get sawfish to do all these things??? Or perhaps another window manager I can use with gnome that does that.

Thanks,
Adam

found metacity not long after this post does all this, and I've been using fine for a few weeks