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Old 12-06-2003, 11:06 PM   #1
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Thumbs down I lost root permission and .....!!!


This is really getting on my nerves and am about to go back to 9.1 or MAYBE JUST SAY F... it and go back to sucky windows. NOW MDK IS GETTING WORSE!!

This is my last plea for help. I have done everything by the book, used how to's, spoken to people in here and all over a steady two week period of time. IN FACT, I haven't slept for two days now trying to fix this damn thing.

First I thought I was a total screw up trying to upgrade from 9.1 to 9.2, attempting a compile and failing 8 times (six times different errors and the last two repeating the errors). No one could figure what was going on. So I gave up, erased the entire hard drive, and totally installed nothing but MDK 9.2. It started beautifully, but half of the programs were missing and most of the rest needed to be updated.

THEN; at least 15% of the files cannot be installed because of conflicts (with what..it is all 9.2??). LITERALLY PATHETIC!! On top of that, I do not have Konqueror in super user mode for root permission access. I only have root permission access through a termianl, but I still cannot edit anything.

What the hell is happening here??
 
Old 12-07-2003, 12:53 AM   #2
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Perhaps you should list the errors you get when you try to do specific things (install, edit, etc.)

At least this reply will keep your post among the active threads.
 
Old 12-07-2003, 01:32 AM   #3
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You can edit anything as super user from a terminal. su to root, then 'gedit /etc/fstab'. Now you would be editing your fstab as root. Replace gedit with whatever editor you like. Kedit perhaps since you appear to use KDE.

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Old 12-07-2003, 06:07 AM   #4
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I am sorry but no I cannot edit anything from a terminal!

Yes, I can goto the root in a terminal with su and password, but I have no of what edit commands to use to bring up an editor and none of the editors are permitting me to do anything otherwise. I have tried all of the editors including the one I always used in the past (KWrite), but I had always activated an editor by clicking on a file in Konqueror which was my SUPER USER FILE MANAGER, but now it only exists as a browser. I have tried all of my other file managers and they all say the same thing,

I DO NOT HAVE SUFFICIENT PERMISSION

and besides knowing that I lost Konqueror as SUPER USER FILE MANAGER I cannot figure what happened. I AM TRYING REAL HARD TO FIND IT ON THE NET, BUT SO FAR NOPE!

Does anyone know what is wrong and how to fix it??

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Old 12-07-2003, 02:45 PM   #5
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what edit commands to use

If you normally use kwrite, open a terminal window, su to root, then enter "kwrite filename &". This will open kwrite (presumably with super user permissions), and still leave you the command line to use other commands while kwrite remains open.
 
Old 12-07-2003, 06:24 PM   #6
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Weeeellll duuuuh...I am really duhhh!!

GEEZ! Can't get any simpler can it? Actually it could by giving me konqueror like KDE used to do as just being there, but I guess as mdk moves along things will change. It is still quite odd, but I am very happy and greatful that you told me how to get at it.

Now I just need to create a safety area to experiment in and go back to learning how to compile successfully. Ther eis supposed to be some sort of VIRTUAL KERNEL being offered for that kind of learning, but does anyone know how it works while also understanding how a person would fit a 17 mb kernel into a 5 mb virtual kernel??
 
Old 12-07-2003, 06:30 PM   #7
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Glad you got it worked out You do realise that Ehakw's suggestion was the same thing I said above?

"su to root, then 'gedit /etc/fstab'. Now you would be editing your fstab as root."
(replace gedit with kwrite, vi, emacs, kedit, whatever)

I think I see the confusion though. You were using 'su' to get to root, then trying to open a file to edit using a filemanager like konqueror rather than entering the command?

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Old 12-08-2003, 05:49 AM   #8
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Cool You are ALMOST correct.

Hi Scruff,

You are partialy correct in your assumption, but the situation is and was like this;

When I started with mdk 8.2 and up until mdk 9.2 I had icons on the lower left hand corner of the tool bar, taskbar, control panel (whatever it is actually called) for "Home", "Konsole", "Start Applications", "Show Desktop", and "MDK Control Center". Now I only have, "Start Applications" and "Show Desktop".

At the same time, in the Start Menu, at /Applications/File tools there used to be TWO ICONS (among others of course) for Konqueror and Konqueror (Super User). Konqueror (basic) would only function to let me see things and I could use it as a browser as well. The one listed for Super User would allow me to MOVE ENTIRE FILES to and from any directory anywhere in my computer, EDIT just by clicking on whatever editable file and Konqueror would automatically pop up an editor (whichever one I had last used) for me to do the editting in without having to input any commands at all.

Konqueror for Super User was already pre-programmed with my identity. Linux had automatically set Konqueror up for me to use as a ROOT FILE MANAGER and it was always there on standby. NOW, to have Konqueror as SUPER (ROOT) USER I have to use commands as you and ehawk have advised.

Don't get me wrong! I am not really lazy, I just think - for time issues - having some of these things on standy is a lot more convenient. If I did not have Konqueror the convenient way to begin with I would never have become slightly uncomfortable over not having it. OK OK; I am a (as the saying goes)creature of habit. SO BUMMER!

It would be nice if I could enter a command somewhere to tell mdk to place an icon for Konqueror (ROOT USER) on the lower panel so it would be on standby like it used to be. But OH WELL.
AGAIN I SAY THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING!
 
Old 12-08-2003, 05:59 AM   #9
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Talking OH YEAH!!

Sooooo, what do you suggest is the best way to get back at learning to compile and such??

Can I create a sort of secluded DIRECTORY or perhaps CREATE ANOTHER PARTITION just to work on the kernel sources, while at the same time having some kind of protection to keep those kernels from having any interaction with the working pre-compiled kernel until I so decide to permit such??

If I am definitely able to do anything like I am asking, could you please give me a fairly explicit (but not highly technical) instruction as to HOW?

AGAIN I THANK YOU!
 
Old 12-08-2003, 12:05 PM   #10
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second partition

You are experimenting with things I have not tried, but I think it would be quite safe to create a second partition, install the same distribution to new partition, configure it in the same way as your primary installation, and play around with the kernel in the "testing" partition. Someone will doubtless point out if I am mistaken, or if they have an easier solution. A second, external hard drive might prove cool, but perhaps hardware dependencies might need to be considered.....this is beyond my experience.
 
Old 12-09-2003, 11:43 AM   #11
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Cool

Well, at least for now I have 9.2 functioning. Of course, I really would like to become reasonably proficient at compiling a kernel so I can have it the way I wish it to be instead of wasting resources on things I do not need, but until I figure (OR SOMEONE TELLS ME) how to guarantee that a screwed or failed compile won't damage the rest of my system, I guess I am stuck with precompiled kernels.

On the other hand, I am still puzzled as to why the ksplashml is missing from the KDE Control Center. I have a ksplashml splash screen graphic while entering linux, but the Control Center management ability is gone. Does anyone know why and how I can bring it back into view? I am guessing it is part of the menu problem 9.2 is having, but I have repeated update-menus -v at least 20 times and have gotten no where:

ANY SUGGESTIONS??
 
  


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