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Mad-Halfling 01-15-2013 04:23 PM

How Well Does iTunes Actually Run Under WINE On Linux
 
The background: I've got a mate who got a new laptop that runs Windows 8, and he absolutely hates it. Though he's never used Linux, he approached me and asked for advice about replacing Windows with Linux. The kicker is that a prerequisite (I'll come to that later) that he has to be able to run iTunes, so I was wondering how well iTunes actually runs under WINE (WINEHQ seems to list it as rather ropey).

I said that there are plenty of programs that will sync to iDevices, but apparently not only has he got a bunch of music on there, and there are programs that sync to and from iTunes to his iPad and iPhone, so he needs iTunes - as I have never used an Apple device, nor iTunes, I don't know what it does beyond music syncing (I think it was application data?) that needs to be set up. I suggested dual-booting, but he says most of the time he uses his laptop he will sync his devices so that isn't an option, and I think this rules out running iTunes in a VM as it seems pointless and overkill to boot up into Linux then have to start a VM just for iTunes.

This is a real shame as he is really keen to try out Linux, but the iTunes issue is a show-stopper if it doesn't run well.

Thx - MH

dugan 01-15-2013 04:32 PM

It doesn't work at all. You can check out out the iTunes entry on appdb.

Mad-Halfling 01-15-2013 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by dugan (Post 4870887)
It doesn't work at all. You can check out out the iTunes entry on appdb.

Yup, as I mentioned, I already checked that, but searching I found quite a lot of results saying that it runs ok - hence my question to see if anyone had any practical experience of trying to run it, and what does and doesn't work.

dugan 01-15-2013 11:39 PM

This is an actual Wine bug entry:

iTunes 11: crashes when running

Mad-Halfling 01-16-2013 03:46 AM

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Originally Posted by dugan (Post 4871050)
This is an actual Wine bug entry:

iTunes 11: crashes when running

Have you tried it, yourself?

273 01-16-2013 04:40 AM

I've not managed to get it running, though I admit I've not tried hard. I didn't try too hard because I cannot see any indication anywhere that anyone has managed to synchronise and iDevice with iTunes under WINE. I ran iTunes in an XP VM when it was required for the operation of my iPad and it even synched over wireless.

descendant_command 01-16-2013 04:49 AM

With that many iThings, should he not just get a Mac?

(why does the term 'gateway drug' spring to mind ... ) :p

cynwulf 01-16-2013 05:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by descendant_command (Post 4871201)
With that many iThings, should he not just get a Mac?

(why does the term 'gateway drug' spring to mind ... ) :p

+1

iTunes is a piece of obfuscated bloat designed for the Mac and ported to windows. Running such a beast under Wine was never going to be easy (especially when Apple clearly don't want you to do that). It's a losing battle - he either buys a Mac or maybe Windows 7.

In my experience such people will never stick with a GNU/Linux system and will bail at the first sign of a problem - meaning that the whole enterprise will simply be a waste of your time.

However, I may be wrong so good luck anyway.

:hattip:

mostlyharmless 01-16-2013 07:37 AM

Actually have tried it, as well as running it in a VM. It doesn't work, and if you do get a version to kind of work, the chances are great that the iTunes library will get corrupted, eventually. Unfortunately, third party syncing methods also don't play nice, at least in my personal experience. Agree with the comments above.

dugan 01-16-2013 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Mad-Halfling (Post 4871168)
Have you tried it, yourself?

Nope. I really didn't feel a need to assume that I would have a different result than everyone else who claimed to have.

And when I tried to do so last night, I found that it was impossible to download a 32-bit version of iTunes from Apple's websites. I'm not going to set up a 64-bit version of Wine or risk running a 32-bit iTunes from a "mirror".


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