Graphical environment without X.
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Can I use my Graphical Desktop without X ? Thank you. |
U need an X server to do UI (or something to tell the video h/w to draw something) X UI is different (from Windows) because it runs in a separate process and x clients have to use Unix sockets to communicate to it...tell it what to draw, it runs using root privilege, lightDM (ubuntu uses this) is a display manager that is an X client, it creates the log in screen (and does let u login)
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I you can get Wayland to work, maybe yes
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As I understand it things can be done with frame buffer but, as mentioned, without X a desktop isn't really viable unless a replacement is found.
This laptop does let me select Gnome on Wayland and it works -- but I use XFCE and it's not moved to Wayland yet and my desktop has an NVIDIA card so I'll not use it for a while. I've played with Rebecca Black Linux but Debian Sid works better with Wayland on this machine. |
For security reasons, someone disable X.
Wayland can work like other Desktop? |
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XWindows/XOrg is the foundation software behind any "graphic user anything." It's a non-privileged userland pair of processes: a client, and a server.
This is what allows you to, for example, connect to a remote machine (that doesn't even have a graphics card ...) and conduct a GUI session with that machine. As long as the remote is running the X server, you can connect. (And it does not use the crappy bitmap-transfer method that Windows Remote Desktop is obliged to use. The graphics are being rendered directly on your machine, by the client.) |
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When you think about it this is a bizarre request "How can I run desktop applications on a machine that somebody has disabled X on?". When you put it like that the answer is "You can't, that's why they disabled X". |
Thus, It is not True that Graphical system like Xorg can cause hacking?
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Edit: sorry, just occurred also. The admins probably want to avoid the whole "application X opens port through firewall under circumstance y under a blue moon, or causes 100 RAM usage on VM host" problem. Adding a desktop is adding more potential problems and holes. |
so this wayland.. what are its benefits over x server? why would someone switch to wayland assuming they could get a desktop environment to use it?
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you forgot the '' symbol in front of the 28 to signify a '('.. thats your fault, not chromiums, and lastly wikipedia is a politicized source of propaganda, i avoid it when possible
and this is the proper link anyway https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waylan...erver_protocol) |
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Please people, keep this civil. The link in 273's post may be broken because there currently is a bug in the forum software that sometimes swallows percent-signs. Jeremy is working on that.
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Other than Xorg, you do have Wayland provided you get a working compositor such as Weston, and you may need to install various portions of Xorg, minus xorg-server of course for application support (xorg-server is the actual x client software). There is also an alternative UI drawing system called DirectFB, though I've known few people to get DirectFB working.
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I apologise for being rude earlier. My point was that Wayland and X11 comparisons and discussions are too big to start posting here. If you want to learn whether one or the other will work for you best then it's probably best to read up then google around.
Again, sorry I blame tiredness for my rudeness and the feeling that what is being asked may be against the intentions of the server admin team. |
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i totally agree. and, before someone disses wikipedia again, the internet is much bigger and there's many more ways to get information. |
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