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Old 01-25-2004, 09:12 AM   #1
neilcpp
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Gimmick CD Burner software?




I've been trying to burn a few cd's under linux and come to realise the realitiy of the situation:

1. There are at least three CD burning packages in my distribution, without naming names.

2. NOT ONE of these is documented. i.e There are no instructions telling the novice user how to use the software.

3. NOT ONE of these 'programs' actually work.

When I look around the net at palces like www.linuxiso.org I find people recommending that you use a windows program to burn a CD...

Is someone having a laugh here? I don't expect all programs to work without configuration, but how can I configure a program that has inadequate - or no documentation???

Are the suite of Linux CD burner packages nothing more that a gimmick? I'm finding it hard to reach any other conclusion...

(Thants my rant over )
 
Old 01-25-2004, 09:33 AM   #2
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A search at LQ led me to this thread. Fancypiper's instructions have
helped me to burn CD's from command line, as well as in these cute
little GUI packages, for three Linux distros now. Read it and see if you
can't get some answers.
 
Old 01-25-2004, 09:38 AM   #3
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people recommend using Windows software at linuxiso.org as it's 90% implicit that you do not HAVE linux to use! that's why you just downloaded it!

there is a lack of comprehensively good burner programs, however i'd be careful to point the finger quite so quickly, you may be missing somethign very simple.

personally i use cdw or eroaster. lovely.
 
Old 01-25-2004, 09:54 AM   #4
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Must be you haven't tried K3B.

I use it on my desktop, and my laptop, not only does it work, but it is as easy or eeasier to use the nero.

Adding additional functions is easy, install transcode, vcdimager, libvoribis and a few other tools and it does things like rip and burn DVDs. DVD copy, Cd cloning............

I have used allot of burning apps in linux, xcdroast used to be a favorite, until I started using K3B.

K3B is in my opinion the easiest to use, has the most options, and just plain works. I don't have a need for anything else. I never had to read a manual to use it.

If you haven't tried it then I recomend you do.
 
Old 01-25-2004, 10:13 AM   #5
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K3B!!
That is good!!!
But it is not suport my language ---- Chinese !
My CD's file name is English now. But it's not matter.
It can create ISO file, burn audio CD, burn data CD and so on.
It is as good as nero.
 
Old 01-25-2004, 03:32 PM   #6
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OK.. so maybe, just maybe I was a little upset when I posted earlier.

I managed to get my CD burned in the end by downloading & using X CD Roast.

Im no rocket scientist, but these CD Burner programs appear to be just frontends for the 'real' CD Burner engines built into most Linux systems now. X CD Roast worked without fault. But surely, if ever Linux is going to seriously challange 'non technical' folk to switch to it rather that windows, there is a hell of a lot of work to be done yet.


There can be no excuse - as far as i can see - for any program to be released to the public without adequate dcumentation. Im not saying that everything must work without a glitch. I am saying that if there is a problem, users should have enough information to sort it out from the manual / document.

It is no good saying 'look at the source code stupid'. It was never a requirement to using Linux that you had to be a C / C++ programmer. There was no user doc for ANY of the CD burner progs on my MANDRAKE 9.1 system & this is bad.

It seems to me that if the fundamentals are right (i.e the engine programs that burn the CD's), those who design the frontends need to think again about doing justice to the hard work done by the program designers.



 
Old 01-25-2004, 09:24 PM   #7
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Sounds like a mandrake issue, and I am sure the documentation is on the CD' somewhere, you just haven't installed it.

K3B in SuSE has great doumnetation simply by clicking the help button in the tool bar.

Don't judge linux by "one" distrobution.

I may catch flack for saying it, but I haver never cared much for mandrake. Any distro that "forgets" to include the kernel sources on it's CD's is in need of serious attention.
 
Old 01-26-2004, 03:41 AM   #8
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Quote:
Originally posted by neilcpp
There can be no excuse - as far as i can see - for any program to be released to the public without adequate dcumentation. Im not saying that everything must work without a glitch. I am saying that if there is a problem, users should have enough information to sort it out from the manual / document.
Of course there is an excuse... having a version number less than 1. covers your back from anyone criticising you....

That is right though essentially... the linux is largely centered around development, so people actively want to try these releases, and most work just fine.
 
  


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