Talk about a nightmare...
Finally got GAIM compiled from source working and messenger going.
to install it I needed
gtk+-2.2.3.tar.bz2 tried with gtk+-2.2.4 but I kept getting an error about a missmatch so I went with 2.2.3
Once I got all that installed I then got some message about SSL support so I couldn't log in to MSN messenger.
to Get SSL support with MSN I had to install the following:
Then after going through the configure, make, etc with gaim again I could log into MSN.
Then I realized the sound wasn't working
the only 2 options are console beep and command. Some more searching and I found out if you put "esdplay %s" in for the command it works.
Anyway there's what I did maybe it will save someone a good 3 hours... (or next time I start from scratch it will save me 3 hours)