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Old 01-10-2005, 08:36 PM   #1
Wakim
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FireFox no longer starts


I had FireFox running nicely on my new Linux system, and then had to mess with a good thing. I just installed a bunch of software including the GNOME desktop which probably came with Mozilla because that is now installed. FireFox is still there, and when I try to start it I get the starting FireFox box and hourglass, but it just goes away. I was thinking that maybe it can't coexist with Mozilla. I tried to run the instalation program again to see what that would do, but when the splash window poped up and I hit next it just died. I have been mainly using KDE but wanted to see what GNOME would do.

Does anyone know if uninstalling Mozilla would do the trick? I would also consider uninstalling FireFox and reinstalling, but I am not sure how to uninstall something that wasn't an RPM.

Any sugestions would be appreciated.
 
Old 01-10-2005, 10:02 PM   #2
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Mozilla and FireFox can coexist together. Try to remove .mozilla dir in your home dir. and start firefox again (U will lost your bookmarks, saved passwords etc..)

Thanks,
 
Old 01-10-2005, 10:28 PM   #3
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Can you run firefox from a command line?
If you can then the icon will need to be remapped.
If not then maybe it's a plugin conflict. Try moving contents in all plugin folders (/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins /usr/lib/firefox***/plugins /usr/lib/mozilla-1.7.3/plugins or anywhere else) somewhere temporary. If not wishing to try this then try the next 2 items below.

For uninstalling no rpm firefox you can mostly delete the firefox folder whereever it is installed to remove most of everything. Then reinstall.

Another thing I would copy your bookmarks.html file off and store it somewhere. Then you can remove the .mozilla folder under your home directory.

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Old 01-10-2005, 11:20 PM   #4
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yea like said firefox and mozilla get along fine

both compile (link) against gtk2 so if gtk2 version upgrade possibly broke it.
 
Old 01-11-2005, 06:18 AM   #5
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Thanks for the input. I tried to launch FireFox from the console (I assume I just do the ./firefox in the directory it was installed) and I got a message saying something about pointer and it stalled. I checked my plug-in folder, and there was nothing there except the three items I had installed and had working. That doesn't mean one of them wasn't updated somehow and changed or not in the same place.

I then deleted the folder I had installed (that just doesn't feel right after Windows) it to and tried to re-install it but got this message:

SCIM: im_module_init
free(): invalid pointer 0x81ef400!
free(): invalid pointer 0x81ef3d8!
./firefox-installer: line 56: 31525 Segmentation fault ./${BINNAME}-bin $@

As I said I installed a bunch of software, mostly the GNOME desktop and probably all of its components and mplayer. This is after I figured out how to link my installer to the media on the intranet. I forget what they called it, easy umpi or something like that. I also ran the upsate program.

Thanks for the help so far. Any other sugestions would be appreciated. I guess my next thought would be to download the software again but I'm doubt that would make a differance. I have just installed this system, and wouldn't cry if I lost any information right now. I have been contemplating starting over with a fresh linux install anyways. Being new to this I can think of a couple of things I would do differantly this time anyways.

Just out of curiosity, does it matter where you install your software? I installed to my home directory, not knowing any better. It did work, but is there an equivilant to a PROGRAM FILES folder in Windows?
 
Old 01-11-2005, 06:51 AM   #6
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try reinstalling the binary firefox again and see if it works ( if the gnome upgrade broke gtk2, then the installer probably will not run either).

programs are usually installed in /usr or /usr/local (those are prefixes) for example for gnome:

gnome-session (which starts gnome) is usually installed in /usr/bin
gnome libraries are usually installed in /usr/lib
icons, themes, etc.. are usually installed in /usr/share

traditionally, software added to the system by the user is installed in /usr/local and software that came with the system is installed in /usr but these are not hard and fast rules by any means.

installing the firefox binary installation in you home directory is fine if you do not wan't any other users (or it is a single user machine) using it.

EDIT: Oops just saw you already tried to reinstall.
 
Old 01-11-2005, 07:52 AM   #7
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Thanks again. You are the second person who mentioned the gtk2 item. I am thinking if I go into the software management section and search for that and see if there are multiple versions and if I can change (I would uninstall and then reinstall) which one I am using and maybe that will make a differance. Thunderbird isn't working as well. I hadn't gotten that far with my first post, and I assume it will start working again once I get Firefox up and running.

At least I am learning something.

[edit]

That was a great run-on sentance if I do say so myself.

Last edited by Wakim; 01-11-2005 at 07:54 AM.
 
Old 01-11-2005, 07:00 PM   #8
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Well, I searched in the Mandrake control center for GTK2 and about 20 items came up. I then said DOH, and searched for FireFox in there, found it (now that I am linked) and installed it. I had already deleted the folder I had installed it to. Works fine. I'll have to check on those plug-ins I labored over, but second time should be easier.

Ditto for Thunderbird.

Thanks for the help, it kept me thinking.
 
Old 01-31-2005, 09:46 PM   #9
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Hi,
In this case, you must install firefox from source code.

Regards
James Su

Quote:
Originally posted by Wakim
Thanks for the input. I tried to launch FireFox from the console (I assume I just do the ./firefox in the directory it was installed) and I got a message saying something about pointer and it stalled. I checked my plug-in folder, and there was nothing there except the three items I had installed and had working. That doesn't mean one of them wasn't updated somehow and changed or not in the same place.

I then deleted the folder I had installed (that just doesn't feel right after Windows) it to and tried to re-install it but got this message:

SCIM: im_module_init
free(): invalid pointer 0x81ef400!
free(): invalid pointer 0x81ef3d8!
./firefox-installer: line 56: 31525 Segmentation fault ./${BINNAME}-bin $@

As I said I installed a bunch of software, mostly the GNOME desktop and probably all of its components and mplayer. This is after I figured out how to link my installer to the media on the intranet. I forget what they called it, easy umpi or something like that. I also ran the upsate program.

Thanks for the help so far. Any other sugestions would be appreciated. I guess my next thought would be to download the software again but I'm doubt that would make a differance. I have just installed this system, and wouldn't cry if I lost any information right now. I have been contemplating starting over with a fresh linux install anyways. Being new to this I can think of a couple of things I would do differantly this time anyways.

Just out of curiosity, does it matter where you install your software? I installed to my home directory, not knowing any better. It did work, but is there an equivilant to a PROGRAM FILES folder in Windows?
 
Old 01-31-2005, 10:22 PM   #10
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You are the second person who mentioned the gtk2 item. I am thinking if I go into the software management section and search for that and see if there are multiple versions and if I can change (I would uninstall and then reinstall) which one I am using and maybe that will make a differance.
Since you are now getting bad pointers and segmentation faults, you almost certainly have a library conflict someplace.

I would be careful about deleting any libraries; that is not usually necessary - even in the case of an upgrade that is biting you. Commonly the old library (the one you need) is still available on the system.

Rather than think about deleting libraries, you should plan to symlink them. Most likely you will find that the library that is biting you is already reference by a symlink, and the library you need is right beside it but no longer referenced by the symlink. In this case, you delete the symlink and make a new one to point to the library you need.

If this causes gnome to break (it shouldn't...) then you have a problem, but you can get firefox running again.
 
Old 01-31-2005, 10:23 PM   #11
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Just out of curiosity, does it matter where you install your software? I installed to my home directory, not knowing any better. It did work, but is there an equivilant to a PROGRAM FILES folder in Windows?
That would be /usr/ and /usr/local
 
Old 01-31-2005, 11:35 PM   #12
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I think this would be a good time to mention that mandrake has a package manager to prevent this from happening. You should almost always use it for installing software. It will keep your system running lean and clean!

Mandrake uses URPMI. You should look into learning it (or the graphical equivalent). Trust me, once you get used to it you will never go back to installing things yourself, and you will never have another library conflict!
 
  


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