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Old 03-19-2011, 03:33 PM   #1
kaza
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FC11->FC14: gmixer can't mute only speaker leaving headphone ON.


Hello,

I recently upgraded from FC11 to FC14.
Under FC11, I was able using the "gmixer"
to mute only the speakers while leaving
the signal to the headphones. After
uprading to FC14 and reinstalling the "gmixer"
when I attempt to mute the "front" control
it mutes the headphones too. The speakers are
connected to the "front" connector among the
mainboard (ASUS M3A79T deluxe) audio connectors
and the headphones are connected to the headphones
jack at the front of the case.

What am I missing?
Is there any configuration file that got changed
during the upgrade which contains some switch
relevant to mute controls?

Thanks in advance for any help,
 
Old 03-19-2011, 09:32 PM   #2
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how did you upgrade???
use the fedora 14 dvd to do a dvd upgrade
OR
-- The recommended way to skip 3 versions --
reformat
do a full clean NEW install of 14


how many fedora 11 rpms are still installed if you used the first way
-- there should be NONE - ZERO - 0 --
to see run
Code:
su -
rpm -qa | grep fc11
 
Old 03-20-2011, 11:08 AM   #3
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Hi John, thanks for the reply.

I used the second way: saved the list of packages,
backed up /home, repartitioned the disk
and installed FC14. After comparing
the list of packages immediately after the installation with
the FC11 list created the list of package names
that were missing and installed them.

I made a check that you suggested and I see that
for some reason I have few FC11 packages (the
"diff" I made was on names only, without versions of architectures):

Code:
<localhost.localdomain>.../user>rpm -qa | grep fc11
faad2-libs-2.7-1.fc11.x86_64
a52dec-0.7.4-15.fc11.x86_64
twolame-libs-0.3.12-4.fc11.x86_64
mod_dnssd-0.6-2.fc11.x86_64
What did I do wrong to have FC11 packages - I don't
know. Based on the above info, what should be done
to fix this mute problem? In a more general sense,
how can I debug the reason for this behaviour: at what
files/packages should I search for the clue?

TIA for any info,
kaza.

Quote:
Originally Posted by John VV View Post
how did you upgrade???
use the fedora 14 dvd to do a dvd upgrade
OR
-- The recommended way to skip 3 versions --
reformat
do a full clean NEW install of 14


how many fedora 11 rpms are still installed if you used the first way
-- there should be NONE - ZERO - 0 --
to see run
Code:
su -
rpm -qa | grep fc11
 
Old 03-20-2011, 09:48 PM   #4
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Quote:
What did I do wrong
? maybe nothing , but i do not know

it is normal for fedora to reuse rpm's without renaming them - if there was NO change
so on fedora 14 it would be common to have about 6 fedora 13 and ? maybe 1 fedora 12 if it was a game,font, or something like that
but fedora 11 on 14 ?????

now these
Quote:
faad2-libs-2.7-1.fc11.x86_64
a52dec-0.7.4-15.fc11.x86_64
twolame-libs-0.3.12-4.fc11.x86_64
deal with audio

fedora is well known for changing the names of rpm's and for "deprecating " rpm's
and for using VERY different programs from one version to the next

So it is VERY possible for a fedora 11 and fedora 14 to have VERY different lists of installed programs
try this
Code:
su-
yum reinstall faad2 faad2-libs a52dec twolame twolame-libs
and see if reinstalling them dose it .
 
Old 03-21-2011, 02:17 PM   #5
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Thanks for the suggestion, John.

I attempted to reinstall (3 packages - OK, 2 - couldn't reinstall)
but the same mute behaviour remained: selecting "mute" for front speaker
also mutes the headphones. Is there any configuration files that control this?

I looked at

/etc/alsa/alsactl.conf
/etc/alsa/pulse-default.conf

but didn't see anything realted to "mute" configuration.

Here's the output of reinstall command:

Code:
<root localhost.localdomain>.../root>yum reinstall faad2 faad2-libs a52dec twolame twolame-libs
Loaded plugins: langpacks, presto, refresh-packagekit
Adding en_US to language list
Setting up Reinstall Process
No Match for argument: faad2
Package(s) faad2 available, but not installed.
No Match for argument: twolame
Package(s) twolame available, but not installed.
Resolving Dependencies
--> Running transaction check
---> Package a52dec.x86_64 0:0.7.4-15.fc11 set to be reinstalled
---> Package faad2-libs.x86_64 1:2.7-1.fc11 set to be reinstalled
---> Package twolame-libs.x86_64 0:0.3.12-4.fc11 set to be reinstalled
--> Finished Dependency Resolution

Dependencies Resolved

======================================================================================================================================================
 Package                             Arch                          Version                                Repository                             Size
======================================================================================================================================================
Reinstalling:
 a52dec                              x86_64                        0.7.4-15.fc11                          rpmfusion-free                         56 k
 faad2-libs                          x86_64                        1:2.7-1.fc11                           rpmfusion-free                        172 k
 twolame-libs                        x86_64                        0.3.12-4.fc11                          rpmfusion-free                         60 k

Transaction Summary
======================================================================================================================================================
Reinstall     3 Package(s)

Total download size: 288 k
Installed size: 501 k
Is this ok [y/N]: y
Downloading Packages:
Setting up and reading Presto delta metadata
Processing delta metadata
Package(s) data still to download: 288 k
(1/3): a52dec-0.7.4-15.fc11.x86_64.rpm                                                                                         |  56 kB     00:00     
(2/3): faad2-libs-2.7-1.fc11.x86_64.rpm                                                                                        | 172 kB     00:02     
(3/3): twolame-libs-0.3.12-4.fc11.x86_64.rpm                                                                                   |  60 kB     00:00     
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Total                                                                                                                  69 kB/s | 288 kB     00:04     
Running rpm_check_debug
Running Transaction Test
Transaction Test Succeeded
Running Transaction
  Installing     : a52dec-0.7.4-15.fc11.x86_64                                                                                                    1/3 
  Installing     : twolame-libs-0.3.12-4.fc11.x86_64                                                                                              2/3 
  Installing     : 1:faad2-libs-2.7-1.fc11.x86_64                                                                                                 3/3 

Installed:
  a52dec.x86_64 0:0.7.4-15.fc11                  faad2-libs.x86_64 1:2.7-1.fc11                  twolame-libs.x86_64 0:0.3.12-4.fc11                 

Complete!

TIA for any ideas,
kaza.

Quote:
Originally Posted by John VV View Post
? maybe nothing , but i do not know

it is normal for fedora to reuse rpm's without renaming them - if there was NO change
so on fedora 14 it would be common to have about 6 fedora 13 and ? maybe 1 fedora 12 if it was a game,font, or something like that
but fedora 11 on 14 ?????

now these

deal with audio

fedora is well known for changing the names of rpm's and for "deprecating " rpm's
and for using VERY different programs from one version to the next

So it is VERY possible for a fedora 11 and fedora 14 to have VERY different lists of installed programs
try this
Code:
su-
yum reinstall faad2 faad2-libs a52dec twolame twolame-libs
and see if reinstalling them dose it .
 
Old 03-21-2011, 02:46 PM   #6
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without running fedora right know ? i to am at a loss
other that you might have somehow installed a repo for fedora 11
to check please post the output of
Code:
yum repolist all
an if one or more have fedora 11 ( fc11) hardcoded it it
have a look at Mjm's help page
http://www.mjmwired.net/resources/mjm-fedora-f14.html
 
Old 03-22-2011, 11:36 AM   #7
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Hi John.

It looks like all repositories are either FC14 or not marked
as belonging to a particular version:

Code:
yum repolist all
Loaded plugins: langpacks, presto, refresh-packagekit
Adding en_US to language list
fedora/metalink                                                                                                                |  32 kB     00:00     
rpmfusion-free                                                                                                                 | 2.7 kB     00:00     
rpmfusion-free-updates                                                                                                         | 3.3 kB     00:00     
rpmfusion-free-updates/primary_db                                                                                              | 216 kB     00:02     
updates/metalink                                                                                                               |  28 kB     00:00     
updates                                                                                                                        | 4.7 kB     00:00     
updates/primary_db                                                                                                             | 4.9 MB     00:21     
repo id                                                      repo name                                                                 status
fedora                                                       Fedora 14 - x86_64                                                        enabled: 22,161
fedora-debuginfo                                             Fedora 14 - x86_64 - Debug                                                disabled
fedora-source                                                Fedora 14 - Source                                                        disabled
rpmfusion-free                                               RPM Fusion for Fedora 14 - Free                                           enabled:    411
rpmfusion-free-debuginfo                                     RPM Fusion for Fedora 14 - Free - Debug                                   disabled
rpmfusion-free-rawhide                                       RPM Fusion for Fedora Rawhide - Free                                      disabled
rpmfusion-free-rawhide-debuginfo                             RPM Fusion for Fedora Rawhide - Free - Debug                              disabled
rpmfusion-free-rawhide-source                                RPM Fusion for Fedora Rawhide - Free - Source                             disabled
rpmfusion-free-source                                        RPM Fusion for Fedora 14 - Free - Source                                  disabled
rpmfusion-free-updates                                       RPM Fusion for Fedora 14 - Free - Updates                                 enabled:    319
rpmfusion-free-updates-debuginfo                             RPM Fusion for Fedora 14 - Free - Updates Debug                           disabled
rpmfusion-free-updates-source                                RPM Fusion for Fedora 14 - Free - Updates Source                          disabled
rpmfusion-free-updates-testing                               RPM Fusion for Fedora 14 - Free - Test Updates                            disabled
rpmfusion-free-updates-testing-debuginfo                     RPM Fusion for Fedora 14 - Free - Test Updates Debug                      disabled
rpmfusion-free-updates-testing-source                        RPM Fusion for Fedora 14 - Free - Test Updates Source                     disabled
updates                                                      Fedora 14 - x86_64 - Updates                                              enabled:  7,055
updates-debuginfo                                            Fedora 14 - x86_64 - Updates - Debug                                      disabled
updates-source                                               Fedora 14 - Updates Source                                                disabled
updates-testing                                              Fedora 14 - x86_64 - Test Updates                                         disabled
updates-testing-debuginfo                                    Fedora 14 - x86_64 - Test Updates Debug                                   disabled
updates-testing-source                                       Fedora 14 - Test Updates Source                                           disabled
repolist: 29,946
Is there any way to start debugging this from the
"down and dirty bits" direction: how the LINUX kernel treats
the hardware of different audio jacks (in what sources files
is the code dealing with them?), how is the audio drivers
deal with the hardware or its representation through
kernel services and the higher levels, what the "gmixer"
changes when I change the "front speaker mute" state?

TIA,
kaza.


Quote:
Originally Posted by John VV View Post
without running fedora right know ? i to am at a loss
other that you might have somehow installed a repo for fedora 11
to check please post the output of
Code:
yum repolist all
an if one or more have fedora 11 ( fc11) hardcoded it it
have a look at Mjm's help page
http://www.mjmwired.net/resources/mjm-fedora-f14.html
 
  


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