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Old 08-19-2006, 01:47 PM   #1
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I can't open a file written in Open Office using either 'kedit' or 'gedit'.

I write the letters in Open Office and save as '.doc' documents. Because they
should be compatible with Microsoft Word for Windows program. Some of those
documents I send to other people. They don't use Open source.

I can open the files or rather programs written on the shell using 'kedit' and
'gedit'.

Why those editors don't recognize the binary documents?
What is the meaning of those two programs if you can't open a letter?

You could write all simple letters using the vi editor. When I write a shell
script, I use the vi editor.

For what purpose, do you use 'kedit' and 'gedit' ?

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Old 08-19-2006, 02:14 PM   #2
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The .doc format is Microsoft's proprietary word processing format. They have not documented it, and in fact, they don't want any program to read or write that format but their very own word processor--Word.

The only reason OpenOffice.org is able to read/write that format is a testament to the devotion and hard work of the reverse engineers.

The gedit and kedit text editors are--well--text editors, not document processors.

Why do you require compatible with Microsoft Word? Everyone universally understands text, so why not use plain text?
 
Old 08-19-2006, 02:50 PM   #3
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Why those editors don't recognize the binary documents?
What is the meaning of those two programs if you can't open a letter?

You could write all simple letters using the vi editor. When I write a shell
script, I use the vi editor.

For what purpose, do you use 'kedit' and 'gedit' ?
Not everybody wants/needs to learn the vi/vim commands. They want easy to use GUI prorams.
 
Old 08-19-2006, 02:56 PM   #4
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Thank Ken

Those documents I sent to the others are important to me. In other words they are important to my existance.

When you use the .txt format, it looks primitive.
When others send documents using Word program, I must reply with them in an equal fashion. Those people might think I live in the Stone Age. It might lead to some sort of underrating of my work and existence.

I don't use Microsoft programs. I have Windows XP with Microsoft Office suite. I rarely use them. It is a just a symbolic operating system, as far as I am concerned.

There are some beautiful programs to emulate Cisco routers. They are made for Microsoft. So I have no choice but to use Windows.
 
Old 08-19-2006, 03:17 PM   #5
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I can open the files or rather programs written on the shell using 'kedit' and
'gedit'.
Have you tried to open OpenOffice Word, and open the .doc files from there? - This might be the first step, we'll have a look at file associations in case that succeeded.

BTW, greetings from another German!
 
Old 08-19-2006, 03:28 PM   #6
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I open the gedit and kedit.

I could open the files.

I could open the files which I wrote using the vi editor. It worked fine. They are just scripting programs.

Then I tried to open the files I wrote using the Open Office program. Those files I saved as .doc. Because they should be compatible with Microsoft Word program. As you know they are in binary form.

No, it didn't work.
 
Old 08-19-2006, 03:52 PM   #7
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Gins i dont know much about the compatibility of .doc files with oo.org or koffice, or anyother open attempt at using MS formats. i would suggest a copy of vmware. then you can install ms office on it and use office from there. i do this, even though i try to use only linux and os apps, most of the rest of the world love MS esp office. so to keep my job and make it through school i just go ahead and conform with them and their M$ loving ways.. vmware server just came out, its free and for linux.. check it out.

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The .doc format is Microsoft's proprietary word processing format. They have not documented it, and in fact, they don't want any program to read or write that format but their very own word processor--Word.

The only reason OpenOffice.org is able to read/write that format is a testament to the devotion and hard work of the reverse engineers.

The gedit and kedit text editors are--well--text editors, not document processors.

Why do you require compatible with Microsoft Word? Everyone universally understands text, so why not use plain text?
this has nothing to do with it being a MS format.. the .doc file is rich text, there are formatting things in there like bold, and font sizes, and justification. tags for these things have to be stored in with the text, so you have to have a program that understands how to read those things out to be able to open the file and have it be legible.

any formatting that adds rich text features is not readable in a plain text editor regardless of the owner of the format.
 
Old 08-19-2006, 03:55 PM   #8
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Let me get this right: You've edited files in some text editors, saved them as .doc, and they won't open in OpenOffice or Microsoft Word?

- The .doc file format is binary. You can't edit it in a text editor.

Trying to understand...

- Could you post sample contents of such a .doc file you've created?
 
Old 08-19-2006, 04:04 PM   #9
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Gins,

why do you keep posting stuff that's unrelated to Programming to
this forum? There's still your GPG thread running here, they're
all better off in Linux-Software or Linux-General, this one here
even in Linux-Newbie.


Cheers,
Tink
 
Old 08-19-2006, 04:33 PM   #10
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If you think I am writing rubbish or rather irrelevant stuff, you may remove it. You are a moderator so it is your prerogative to remove posts.
 
Old 08-19-2006, 04:37 PM   #11
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I didn't say it's rubbish, I'm saying you're consistently choosing the
wrong forum. As far as moderation goes: I'm moding newbie and *BSD.
As far as this forum goes I just can report posts like any other member.


Cheers,
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Old 08-20-2006, 12:18 PM   #12
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dont forget about abiword ... i've heard at least on guy use it office-wide ...


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Old 08-20-2006, 01:39 PM   #13
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Yes, abiword exists both for Windows and Linux.
I didn't download it as I am happy with Open Office.
Open Office has all the functions you need.
It is not inferior to Microsoft Word.
 
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