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Old 07-01-2005, 07:22 PM   #1
Lambda_Core
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Dual Boot Fedora Core 3 and Win Xp Pro


Hi,

How do i create a dual boot system, i'm all confused after Googling this topic up. I've installed win Xp as they say, i'm all fogged up about what to do next. I just need a dual boot system, and i don't need the two os'es to share any files or anything like that. All i want to do is explore linux without deleting win xp, that's all, and don't have the cash for another hard drive.

thanks
 
Old 07-01-2005, 07:56 PM   #2
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Le me just suggest to use vmware workstation, in that way you don't need to learn how to partition your hard drive, and you can run linux while in windows. if you still want to do it with different partitions I will suggest you carefully read a guide on how to do it, specially the boot loaders that for newbies is a little tricky, anyway here is a list on what to study before attempting to install a dual system:

1. learn how to partition your hard disk, so you have some space for windows and some for linux (depending on install type I suggest at least 2Gb for linux).

2. you should read something about the linux partitions, so later you don't get confused (google it).

3. you should understand what a boot loader is and how to reinstall them for windows and linux (grub or lilo).

consider using Mandrake, which is a very easy "user friendly" distro, or if you are looking for server software I will suggest debian.

make sure you understand Linux is a different OS and as you did with windows, there will be sometime and some reading before you learn how to do things.

in the other hand, congratulations for your decision on giving linux a try, this for sure is a decision you will never regret.

take it easy. and read

Last edited by carlosruiz; 07-01-2005 at 08:03 PM.
 
Old 07-01-2005, 09:34 PM   #3
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Also, if you want to try Linux but don't want the trouble of this partitioning and fear of erasing Win, you can try a 'Live' CD, or a Linux distro that works directly from a CD. Google 'Knoppix Live', and you'll see what it is.
 
Old 07-01-2005, 09:57 PM   #4
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You need to resize your XP partition. You have a couple of choices. If you can get it, partition magic does a great job of resizing HD partitions. If not, some distributions have the ability to resize the Windows partitions. I've used Mandrakes ( Mandriva's ) several times with success. Make sure you do a complete defrag before you start. I don't know about fedora core 3. I've installed it, but only on a fresh partition.

My favorite solution for newbies to try linux is still the live cd, of which there are plent out there to try. Mandrake Move, Suse Live, Knoppix and a few more. There is even a live cd for setting up a PVR.
 
Old 07-02-2005, 12:56 AM   #5
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use partition magic to resize windows partition and create a linux partition (ext2 file system)

get and easy to use distro like suse or mandriva..........both will walk you through an easy step by step installation

during installation......you tell the computer to setup linux in the linux partition you created earlier........simple
 
Old 07-02-2005, 12:29 PM   #6
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Thanks for the Replies!!!

Wow, so many replies, thanks. I wish i had asked for which linux distro to start off with, that way i would'nt have wasted a week downloading these 4 CD's. But HEY thanks a lot.

This is what i foolishly did in the mean time, i low level formatted my drive (Powermax 4.09) and installed linux first, followed by win xp!


obviously win xp loads automatically now

hehe, now i'm working on this <

When you restart the computer it will not ask which OS you want, you need to setup the windows boot loader to add a menu to your GRUB loader. The first thing that you need to do is go into Linux in rescue mode. To do this put in the first Fedora CD and then type “linux rescue” into the prompt. Your files will be mounted under "/mnt/sysimage", so type "#chroot /mnt/sysimage" to access them. You now need to mount your fat32 partition so you can copy the boot image to it. First make a directory called /win, “mkdir /win”. Then you need to mount your partition to it, “#mount -t msdos /dev/hda4 /win”. Now you need to copy the first section of /boot to it and save it as FEDORA.BIN, “#dd if=/dev/hda3 of=/win/fedora.bin bs=512 count=1”. You will have to replace hda4 and hda2 with your own partitions.


Now you have the boot image you need to tell windows where it is. So reboot the computer into windows. You will need to open and edit boot.ini, this file is hidden so will not show up in Explorer. If you go Start->Run and type "notepad C:\boot.ini", you won’t have to modify any Explorer settings. To the end of that file you need to add "C:\FEDORA.BIN="Fedora Linux", do not touch anything else unless you know what you are doing! >

if it dosen't work, i'll get a live CD and follow all that everyone says, see i'm only a high school student and it's summer, so i have time to spare.

i'm a newb, i hope i haven't frustruated anyone and again THANKS.

Lambda_Core
 
Old 07-03-2005, 01:45 AM   #7
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Well just in case you want to start over, I recommend Mandrake now Mandriva but it doesn't mean fedora is too hard, I think low level formatting your hard drive has nothing to do with OS's you are going to install, I think low level formatting checks the bad blocks in your hard disk and then rewrites a table to ignore those bad blocks so they wont be used later, what you should do is:

if you are fresh installing everything and you already have a backup of your files somewhere in another disk/media.

Install windows when asked in which partition to install it, make sure you erase all the partitions then create a new one and assign the half of the disk to it, then format the partition, and install xp as always, then after xp is installed, go ahead and install Mandriva or Fedora make sure you install it in the free disk space (the other half), at some point while installing linux it will install the bootloader, usually lilo or grub, make sure lilo or grub has an entry for windows (normally it is automatically detected). at least mandriva does.

cheers
 
Old 07-03-2005, 08:06 PM   #8
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Sweet, Got it.

Got a dual boot to work, thanks to you all.


i had to make room for swap, i gave it 2Gb, it didn't really make much of a performance enhancement though..., anyways it works !!!!, now if only how i could figure out how gcc works.....

anyways, thanks to everyone for visiting this thread, i got fedora to work just fine, i am considering Mandrake and Knoppix as many of you pointed out.

PS. the reason for the low level format was cause i messed up on a partition and could'nt get fdisk to remove it so i had no other choice but to Powermax the whole thing, but again thanks for pointing out what it really does.

Sincerely from the latest Linux (or not?)
 
  


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