jimdaworm

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Hey everyone. I have been trying to make cd images with dd as k3b says that verson 2.0.3 of cdrecord doesn´t support cd cloning.

My problem is that I have tried to make images for 5 different cds. Slackware 10 d1 and d2 and arch linux 0.6 (All were orignally cd imges downloaded form the net) dd gets to right near the end of the cds and then says:

Just to test it I tried burning the image for slackware d1 to a cd-rw and it seemed to boot fine.

I also tried copying two other cds with dd windows xp and one of the disks for need for speed underground. dd made images of these cds without any errors.

I also tried installing nero in windows and it coppied the slackware cds without any errors.

Thanks for you time

kilgoretrout

I have two cd drives and one would frequently give I/O errors while the other didn't when using dd. You might want to check out this link:

http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/coasterless.htm

It includes a nice script, rawread, that uses the dd command to make dead accurate isos from a cd. You can also check the md5sum of a cd with the rawread script and make sure your generated iso matches the cd md5sum. When I did this, the md5sums of isos generated when I/O errors were encountered never matched the cd md5sum. If no I/O errors were encountered, they always matched.

At any rate, one drive would always screw up with rawread(I/O errors) and one drive was fine. I went into my box and reseated the ide cable to the drive and the I/O errors went away. I came to the conclusion that dd is more touchy than a normal read from the cd drive. Under normal circumstances, a cd drive has a lot or error correction mechanisms and if you get an I/O error, the drive will reread the sector. These mechanisms don't seem to work as well under dd. As a result, dd is much less forgiving of I/O errors. For me, a slight problem with a poorly seated cable went undetected under normal circumstances but was revealed when I used dd.

homey

Maybe you could try using mkisofs and cdrecord to see if that makes a difference.

Burn directly from disk to disk:
cdrecord -v speed=4 dev=0,0,0 -isosize /dev/cdrom
Where dev=0,0,0 is the recording device and /dev/cdrom is the source cdrom device

or

Create an iso image:
mount /mnt/cdrom
cd /mnt/cdrom
mkisofs -R -J -hide-rr-moved -o /home/newcd.iso .
cd /mnt
umount /mnt/cdrom

kilgoretrout

Bootable cds won't be bootable with isos made from mkisofs. You need a sector by sector exact copy for the cd to be bootable. For a bootable cd, the boot info has to appear on very specific sectors of the cd. This info is lost when you use the mkisofs method you describe. All the data will be there but it won't be on the right sectors thus it won't boot. The dd command preserves the sector location of the data.

jimdaworm

Hey kilgoretrout thanks for the info I will check my cables (maby buy some new ones). I think I have tried all three drives though. I have two lg(dvd reader and cd writer) and one nec 2510 dvd-rw(which is supposed to be pretty good)

homey I thought about that but for that kilgoretrout has mentioned (I needed them to be bootable) it wouldn´t work

Thanks for your guys help

kilgoretrout

You might want to try one of those cdrom lense cleaning kits too. It might just be a dirty lens.

jimdaworm

kilgoretrout Thanks for the tip but my nec 2510 cd/dvd writer is only 2 days old!! I don´t think it should need cleaning.

Ebel

Sometimes I have that problem. I just redo dd until it goes of without a hitch.

It's not the best way to do because I'm basically ignoring the problem, but I rarrely dd CDs, so it doesn't really matter much.

jimdaworm

Thanks for the pointer Ebel I was wondering if there was some way to maby slow it down... maby if it read slower it wouldn´t get errors.

DaneM

Hi, everybody.

I've got the same problem. Whenever I try to do a dd or md5sum on a CD (particularly the Slackware 10 set I bought from edmunds-enterprises.com) it'll get most of the way through and then stop with an input/output error. I've tried doing:

dd if=/dev/hdb of=install1.iso bs=<block size> count=<count> conv=notrunc,noerror

and after spinning the CD for a long time it'll slow down and start scrolling Input/Output errors, all on the same block, until I hit CTRL+C. (/dev/hdb is my cdrw drive.) If I do:

md5sum /dev/hdb

it'll spin for a long time and then slow down, wait, and stop with an Input/Output error.

Anybody got any ideas? I'd appreciate any help you can provide.

--Dane

jimdaworm

Hey DaneM sorry I can´t really help, but just to say I got the EXACT same thing. There were some cds that it seemed like I could make images of all day without errors, but others (Like the slackware cds) always got right to the end and then gave errors.

JZL240I-U

You two might try to disable dma tranfer from your drives, perhaps a slower going will prevent the hardware to produce errors <long shot mode off>...

jimdaworm

Hey JZL240I-U I gave it a go, but no difference... somehow I don´t think its speed related, although I have no idea what it is!!

JZL240I-U

Okay, that was just an idea...

Try then http://www.garloff.de/kurt/linux/ddrescue/ and see what that says...

You really should follow kilgoretrout's link http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/coasterless.htm since it is really instructive...

jimdaworm

Hey JZL240I-U I read those things and gave dd_rescue a go. Its pretty much the same as dd. It gets to the end and right near the end it gets errors