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Old 07-23-2005, 04:23 PM   #1
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Backup software recommendation: what is best to do this???


Hi Everyone,

I am looking for (free) GUI software that can be in charge of unattended backups of a server. I am migrating from win2k and microsoft "backup" software. This new server is entirely linux (no dual boot) ext3.

The system is a linux server running FC4. I have a sony st-9000, 12gig (uncompressed), dat-3 tapes. I want to back up about 60-70 gigs once a week (I will start this) and do nightly unattended incremental backups (on another tape), without changing that tape, every night. This means I need to something that can write to multiple tapes and does not require a new tape every day (Amanda is not a candidate, b/c of this).

I have searched the archives and found a few things, but I could use some recommendations. I was perfectly happy with windows nt backup tool, and I'd like a linux tool that will do the same.

This is my personal server, which I am away from often. I need a gui solution b/c I need something that I can "talk somebody" (my g/f) through, if I have to (when I am out of town).

Recommendations? Pro v. Cons? Experience with ______?
 
Old 07-23-2005, 09:10 PM   #2
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"I am looking for (free) GUI software that can be in charge of unattended backups of a server. I am migrating from win2k and microsoft "backup" software. This new server is entirely linux (no dual boot) ext3.

The system is a linux server running FC4. I have a sony st-9000, 12gig (uncompressed), dat-3 tapes. I want to back up about 60-70 gigs once a week (I will start this) and do nightly unattended incremental backups (on another tape), without changing that tape, every night. This means I need to something that can write to multiple tapes and does not require a new tape every day (Amanda is not a candidate, b/c of this)."

Take a look at Mondo. The last time I looked at Mondo was 3 years ago. At that time it would do everything you want. Presumably the current version is even better.

http://www.mondorescue.org/about/about.html

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Old 07-24-2005, 11:07 AM   #3
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Take a look at Mondo. The last time I looked at Mondo was 3 years ago. At that time it would do everything you want. Presumably the current version is even better.

http://www.mondorescue.org/about/about.html

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Hey Steve,

Does mondo run under any gui (gnome or whatever). I looked at the documentation and it's appears to be shell driven?

Anybody else want to chime in?
 
Old 07-24-2005, 11:38 AM   #4
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"Does mondo run under any gui (gnome or whatever). I looked at the documentation and it's appears to be shell driven?"

mondo is CLI. That is what you need if you are going to automate your backups with cron.

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Old 07-24-2005, 11:51 AM   #5
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"Does mondo run under any gui (gnome or whatever). I looked at the documentation and it's appears to be shell driven?"

mondo is CLI. That is what you need if you are going to automate your backups with cron.

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Steve,

Linux semi-newbie here (backup newbie, for sure)......

Am i correct in saying that CRON is the linux automation function and if I want automatic backups then I have to go with something that is command line and not gui?

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Old 07-24-2005, 12:41 PM   #6
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not 100%, but setting up cronjobs from what i have seen are all CLI. do not be afraid of the CLI it is very fast and very powerful tool to use in adminitering a server or even a workstation for that matter.

99.9% of linux servers do not even have a GUI installed. reason? simple the GUI sucks up system resources thus causing the server to run SLOWER.

once you have the script written, and mondo may just have a preconfigured one for you that you just need to put in your specifics, you make a cronjob with cron -e and poof you are done. never have to touch it again.
 
Old 07-24-2005, 01:13 PM   #7
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not 100%, but setting up cronjobs from what i have seen are all CLI. do not be afraid of the CLI it is very fast and very powerful tool to use in adminitering a server or even a workstation for that matter.

99.9% of linux servers do not even have a GUI installed. reason? simple the GUI sucks up system resources thus causing the server to run SLOWER.

once you have the script written, and mondo may just have a preconfigured one for you that you just need to put in your specifics, you make a cronjob with cron -e and poof you are done. never have to touch it again.
Yes, I am bumbling my way through all the commands now. It just seems like it takes so long to figure out all the right usage and syntax, etc. Totally frustrating.

So you're saying that I can set the script to run a multi-volume weekly backup and a nightly backup with one script, and then only change the tapes out once a week?
 
Old 07-24-2005, 03:15 PM   #8
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I recommend checking out DAR. DAR is command line tool but there is a KDE GUI frontend available.

Peace...
 
Old 07-24-2005, 04:01 PM   #9
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Yes, I am bumbling my way through all the commands now. It just seems like it takes so long to figure out all the right usage and syntax, etc. Totally frustrating.

So you're saying that I can set the script to run a multi-volume weekly backup and a nightly backup with one script, and then only change the tapes out once a week?
the odds are high that you will be able to find a script to do that for you yes. most of your common tools like backup and security scans, etc have been done by many other admins and a lot of them post how they have done their job with their tools to the web. FREE as that is part of the power of linux.
 
Old 07-24-2005, 05:31 PM   #10
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" So you're saying that I can set the script to run a multi-volume weekly backup and a nightly backup with one script, and then only change the tapes out once a week? "

You should set up a seperate script for each cron job. You would need to set up a weekly cron job and a nightly cron job. Combining the scripts for the weekly and nightly cron jobs into a single script is an unnecessary complication.

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Old 07-25-2005, 10:48 PM   #11
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Thanks Steve,

I think I'll give mondo a shot. FC4 does not seem to have any rpm's yet. I'll see if anybody has had any success using it (in another thread).

Thanks Again!
 
Old 07-29-2005, 09:58 AM   #12
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I recommend checking out DAR. DAR is command line tool but there is a KDE GUI frontend available.

Peace...
I looked over the info, and DAR is disk based. There seems to be no support for tape backups. Other than that, it looks like a solid solution (but won't work in my case).
 
Old 03-15-2006, 05:34 PM   #13
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KDAT is/was the KDE gui-driven equivalent for tape drives. It's a bit aged, but still works just fine.
 
Old 03-15-2006, 06:40 PM   #14
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KDAT is/was the KDE gui-driven equivalent for tape drives. It's a bit aged, but still works just fine.

I've been using STAR for about 8 months. I have not had to do a backup, but I have practiced some file restores and it worked fine. I never found anything that really worked adequately, until STAR. It is command line, however, and I would really like a GUI substitute. Anything for people running GNOME out there???
 
Old 03-26-2006, 03:53 PM   #15
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Take a look at Amanda 2.5 (released recently).
 
  


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