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Old 12-28-2006, 01:58 PM   #1
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Accessing Hotmail via Evolution / iTunes




Hi

I've just got Linux installed on my laptop - thanks to all who helped with the installation issues.

I've got two problems regarding Linux - I hope they cab be resolved.

1. How do I get my iPod to synchronise with (ideally) iTunes on Linux? If this isn't possible, what software should I use?

2. I have a Hotmal e-mail account. How do I set it up with Evolution?

I'm using Fedora 6.

Thanks

Al
 
Old 12-28-2006, 02:50 PM   #2
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ms stopped allowing direct access to hotmail accounts from email clients (other than outlook i think) because they want you to have to log onto their site and look at their ads. I found this post on linux-noob.com:

http://www.linux-noob.com/forums/lof....php/t595.html

As for iTunes and your ipod...

There are several good iPod managers for linux. I prefer gtkpod. You can also use Yamipod which can install on and run directly from the iPod. I wouldn't try getting iTunes under wine though.
 
Old 12-28-2006, 03:27 PM   #3
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There is a project named hotwayd to access hotmail accounts. The only problem with hotwayd is it uses POP3 and can only access the inbox. If you have emails in other folders on hour hotmail account, you still have to access hotmail through web mail. hotwayd uses xinetd for its servers, so it does not have the ports open all the time until your email client access localhost or 127.0.0.1.

Try running Windows 98 in VMware to use iTunes. Do not use Windows 2000 or Windows XP in VMware while using USB 2.0 because the virtual machine will crash.
 
Old 08-17-2007, 07:19 PM   #4
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actually, I've accessed the sent messages folder by creating another email account in kmail. Instead of [email_adress@hotmail.com] it would be [email_adress@hotmail.com/sentitems] as the login. It's been a long time. I'm currently trying to set up hotwayd again, but I know it used to work. I never tried accessing other folder, simply because I didn't have any of interest, but I think it might work the same.
 
Old 08-17-2007, 08:20 PM   #5
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okay, I just got it working. Going by example inetd.conf was the problem. "whereis hotwayd" revealed that hotwayd was located in a diferent directory on my system than the one in the example.

It still works. If you are using xinetd, there is an example included with the source code in the file hotwayd.xinetd. It contains this

service hotwayd
{
#only_from = 192.168.0.0/24
disable = no
type = unlisted
socket_type = stream
protocol = tcp
wait = no
user = nobody
groups = yes
server = /usr/sbin/hotwayd
#server_args = -p http://proxy:8080
port = 110
}

I have no experience with xinetd but it is likely that, as with inetd, the daemon will have to be restarted for the changes to take effect. "killall -HUP xinetd" is a reasonable guess. The methods for troubleshooting inetd should apply to xinetd as well. If you don't know what you are using, try "ps -aus |grep inetd" and it should tell you either inetd or xinetd is actively running on the machine.

If you are using inetd, the you add a line to inetd.conf, which is probably in /etc

pop3 stream tcp nowait nobody [path to tcpd] [path to hotwayd]

in my case it literally looks like this:
pop3 stream tcp nowait nobody /usr/sbin/tcpd /usr/local/sbin/hotwayd

I am not sure if you will need to add to /etc/hosts.allow the line:
127.0.0.1

But if you have inetd problems you could try adding it.
Now that inetd.conf has been modified, you need to get inetd to reread the config file. Type "killall -HUP inetd" and that should restart inetd. Typing "ps -aux |grep inetd" should tell you if it is still running. If grep appears on the same line as inetd, disregard that line. You should see a line similar to this:

root 3232 0.0 0.0 1700 540 ? Ss 15:15 0:00 /usr/sbin/inetd

If in /etc/services you have this line:
pop3 110/tcp #Post Office Protocol - Version 3

which defines the port for pop3, you should be able to type "telnet 127.0.0.1 110" and get this:

Trying 127.0.0.1...
Connected to 127.0.0.1.
Escape character is '^]'.
+OK POP3 hotwayd v0.8.4 -> The POP3-HTTPMail Gateway. Server on armada active.

I did notice that in the xinetd.conf example, it says "service hotwayd" which may mean that instead of "/etc/sevices" starting with "pop3" that it should start with "hotwayd" which I seem to recall is the way the official hotwayd examples went several years ago. Keep that in mind if using xinetd and the example above.

So if you got the result above from telnet, that means everything is cool so far. If you get "connection refused" then there is likely a problem with inetd or a firewall. Try "nmap 127,0,0,1" and you should have a line like this:

110/tcp open pop3

If you get a response, indicating that nmap does work and did scan the address, but you did not get the line above, the line in inetd.conf could be wrong somehow or you may have a firewall blocking that port. Guarddog is one firewall configuration tool that I have used in the past. It is a GUI config tool for iptables.

If port 110 IS open, perhaps you are able to connect, but you get no message from hotwayd. The connection just times out after a few seconds. That was happening to me, and it was because the path to hotwayd in inetd.conf was wrong. If indeed the build and installation went well, type "whereis hotwayd" and it should tell you exactly where hotwayd is. If the path in inetd.conf doesn't match, put the correct path in and try again.

Once the telnet thing is working, set up your mail program. You set up a POP3 account with the server address as 127.0.0.1 and port 110. For the login, you put your hotmail email address [emailaddress@hotmail.com]. Incidentally, you should be able to retrieve, say, your sent messages by putting [emailaddress@hotmail.com/sentitems] for the login instead. I don't know if any encrypted login is supported, it appears from my experience 10 minutes ago that it is not. Set all that up correctly, and check your messages. A problem here is either misconfiguration of the email software, or something is interefering with hotwayd outgoing communication from the local machine to the Internet. Something I don't know too much about.

Hope this helps. I've found it quite irritating that there aren't any good answers for this readily available so I've been pretty thorough.
 
  


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