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Old 06-05-2002, 11:58 PM   #1
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Question A good POP server?


Hey all...

I just recently setup qmail with the help of Finegan from another post (thanks again for the help man! ). Now that I have the smtp server running I am looking for a good pop server to setup. Can anyone recommend a good one to use? I need something that will be reliable but also easy to use and configure. I am trying, slowly but surely, to get all the pieces fit together for a fully functional web hosting server. I am not real sure how to set up accounts for the email, or for apache for that matter, so if anyone can help me out with that also I would be greatful!

Thanks,
David

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Old 06-06-2002, 01:19 AM   #2
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You may want to goto http://www.freshmeat.net and do a search for pop3 servers. I saw one mention was, CUCIPOP...it looks like what you may want!
 
Old 06-06-2002, 07:43 AM   #3
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you have 2 smart choices
qpopper from www.eudora.net
ipop3 from UW I think do a little search

but qpopper works well + has ssl support which is cool + secure
 
Old 06-06-2002, 07:44 AM   #4
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sorry
for qpopper goto www.qualcom.com
 
Old 06-06-2002, 01:22 PM   #5
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confused

A bit confused here...

I thought Qmail has POP3 built into it? Thus why there are qpop3d and qpopup, which go through some authentication module.

I read a lot of positive goodness over on inter7's site:
http://www.inter7.com/qmail/index.html

They also have some web based administration addons and other nice additions through vpopmail (allows you to setup users in a mysql database, oracle, or use something else too).

Of course I could just be being mislead as no one has said edgewise if all this is true on inter7's site.
 
Old 06-06-2002, 03:38 PM   #6
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not sure about qmail but qpopper is a good product
 
Old 06-06-2002, 05:46 PM   #7
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Originally posted by Noerr
not sure about qmail but qpopper is a good product
Im not sure if qpopper would be good for what his intentions are. He sounds like he is wanting to make a web mail type registration/management system for public sites or whatnot.

I would hate to make one of those where all the users MUST come from the UNIX user passwd system. You end up cluttering up your entire system with 'email only' users who now have unix accounts on the system. Regardless if you set their shell to be null... they still clutter it all up.

When you get into the thousands of email boxes... having to manage all those unix users along side all the email options... ugh. Crazy...

Thats why i have been trying to find a nice email solution that doesnt require unix type users, but rather can have its OWN self contained user system. Like DUH...
 
Old 06-06-2002, 06:02 PM   #8
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ifm, that is exactly what I am looking for! A nice pop3 email system I can use to set up email accounts for my web hosting clients. Something that will allow me to set up account seperate from actual Linux accounts. I didnt realize exactly what i was looking for until you posted that. haha Now I know...thats it! You find anything like that yet?
 
Old 06-07-2002, 01:32 AM   #9
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Postfix is a nice all in one mailserver..
easy to config
 
Old 06-07-2002, 03:47 AM   #10
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look at webmail solutions then php/mysql combinations, which aren't bound to email system.
That isn't so trivial, since your mail system has to be open+ needs to get accounts from sql instead of passwd. I wouldn't suggest that anyway
 
Old 06-07-2002, 10:51 AM   #11
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Originally posted by biggiefatts
Now I know...thats it! You find anything like that yet?
Been looking. Getting vague, answers from anywhere, and docs I read on the various software packages out there, seem to just neglect flat out stating what it does.

Its a going trend with linux gurus I guess... be as unfriendly and unhelpful as possible, because during their studies to get to guru status, they got no help either... so pass the tradition it seems, right?

The first one I am going to try is qmail with the vpopmail addition from inter7. All the features they list, and some reading into faqs and docs, all point to something that does everything, including virtual domains/hosts/users/aliases/forwarding, and the ability to use a wide variety of user storage systems like mysql/oracle/msql/passwd/cdb.

Others I have heard mention are qpopper... but digging through their site revealed no answers to user systems, or virtual domain/host support. (something I am going to seriously need... as each client will want mail@theirdomain.com and each client might all have the same username at their domain... like webmaster@blah.com etc.)

I think if you poke and prod long enough, someone is bound to answer... thats what I am hoping anyway.

I will certainly post my findings though ... Wont be for at least a week, as I have to install RH7.3 on a new server, and then reinstall all the software afterwards, because it doesnt install apache+ssl, nor the right version php and mysql, and it doesnt include imagemagick, which needs a total reinstall of perl to make good use of... or a decent ftp service... endless mess I am faced with here =)

After I figure out email, I have to figure out dns solution. BIND is evil... so I am in the search of something else (BIND is to dns as sendmail is to email).
 
Old 06-07-2002, 11:24 PM   #12
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Just recently I tried qpopper. I installed it and tried to set things up but their documentation is not very helpful, at least for someone who is new to the topic. I, in no way, know much about providing email service. I really am pretty clueless about how it all works. I did set up qmail sucessfully as an smtp server and will try out the vpopmail addition that was mentioned above. I will also post my findings and results.
 
Old 07-17-2002, 01:40 PM   #13
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what is the url of finegan's help?
 
Old 07-18-2002, 02:39 AM   #14
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Hi,
(H E L P, Postfix + qpopper !)
I want to setup E-mail server for mydomain.com,(static IP) address, I have installed postfix.
my e-mail id is , me@mydomain.com, mynetowrk is 10.1.1.0/28 , when I send mail from my LAN using from address as devil@nowhare.com postfix accepts mail & tries to deliver he mail. I want to avoid this.
(Which is best choise for retriving mail through POP) I am using qpopper 4.0 (yeh they made is free), I am not understanding how to configure both so that qpopper fetches mail.
Is there any way to avoid system user accounts for both postfix & qpopper ? I dont want to use system accounts when it comes to many users,& security reasons.

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