i have done my research on the moinmoin wiki and only found ways to install it in debian and ubuntu but i want to know how to do it from source without the help of any packages that would be obtained from the package managers. i can't seem to find a document that tells how to install moinmoin from source so i was thinking maybe you can help

the instructions should be on the website
http://moinmo.in/MoinMoinDownload
http://moinmo.in/Documentation
http://moinmo.in/MoinMoinQuestions/Installing
or
in a file called README or INSTALL
or
in a Docs folder in the source package


now you say you want to install EVERYTHING from source
be prepared to build A LOT
from the install web page
http://hg.moinmo.in/moin/1.9/raw-fil...s/REQUIREMENTS
build and install python ( and all prerequisites ) - the page has a old version of python so be sure it will NOT be in conflict with your default install of python
build and install Apache ( and all prerequisites )
build and install DocBook ( and all prerequisites )

yes i know about python apache and every single installation guide only says how to get it running which is simply just clicking on the .py file and opening up a browser and directing it to lovalhost:8080. there is no clear guide on what to do in apache to get it working. or what to add and edit in the other configuration files that came in the tarball it also doesn't say much about iis (i know this isn't a windows site but i chode apache over iis since i heard that iis windows installs are more complex and difficult than a linux apache one. what i am looking for is how to get it running in an apache server that can be accessed from other computers on the network. i already know about all the other stuff like python and apache i just want to know how and where to install all of the files that the tarball came with and what to edit inside them and the apache.conf file

I my self do not use this program
but the Apache docs are very extensive on setting it up and the Apache htpd.conf is VERY well commented
http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/
the 8080 port is just a stranded virtual host for port 80
http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/vhosts/
that is also commented on in the htpd.conf
http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/configuring.html

setting up an Apache server is not a small task
I suggest you read through the apache documentation 3 or 4 times ( study them like you would for a class final exam )
read a book or two on Apache - there are a bunch
Oreily's " Apache: a definitive guide " is a good one

i just found all of the apache lines and they seems to be very simple once memorized and understood but i don't understand why whenever i install moinmoin from the tarball i don't get the folder called htdocs which is where all of the stuff goes as well, i am now wondering if there is a certain command to execute in the moinmoin directory to install it because up to now i have been using this
when i figure out how to use this command it would give me all of the files and folders that are missing

after i ran this command everything installed well but the one problem that i just ran into was that it was supposed to create a folder called HTDOCS which is nowhere to be found. what is happening here why isn't the folder showing