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PACMANchasingme 11-28-2016 08:51 AM

Firefox not featured in Security contest (Pwn2Own) what's your opinion?
 
http://venturebeat.com/2016/03/18/pw...rded-in-total/

The sponsors said that it's not worth paying hackers to find vulnerabilities in Firefox because it's too easy. They focused instead on the other browsers at this event.

I always knew Chrome was more bleeding edge in security but the anarchist in me hates Google's telemetry spying. There is ungoogle-chromium for Debian and Inox patches for Arch.

Replacing Chrome with another code blob off some github page seems even more stupid though. :scratch:

Ratamahatta 11-28-2016 05:09 PM

They mentioned that all that was done on Windows/OSX. I suppose there's no fun trying that on a Linux box. (Even if you got down to the system you wouldn't get root access).
I assume that both Microsoft and Apple put quite some money into hardening their system's browsers as they may have a reputation to loose. (Well, Microsoft not that much, really.;))

jefro 11-28-2016 05:20 PM

As with most hacks, a combination of program and OS level tricks are being used with ease. This has been an annual event and never seems to improve the users security. Just ends up being a new hole next year for profit.

I have only said that you have no reasonable expectation that your data will be secure when connected to the internet.

ntubski 11-28-2016 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Ratamahatta (Post 5635587)
I suppose there's no fun trying that on a Linux box. (Even if you got down to the system you wouldn't get root access).

It's not like Linux has never had privilege escalation exploits.

Ratamahatta 11-29-2016 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ntubski (Post 5635679)
It's not like Linux has never had privilege escalation exploits.

No. But not as much as others by far. (See that recent thread on LQ by the way.)

c0wb0y 11-29-2016 07:07 PM

Web-based exploits these days have little regard to host OS. Sometimes if you take security too seriously, you would not want to use computer and connect to the 'net.

notKlaatu 11-29-2016 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by PACMANchasingme (Post 5635375)
http://venturebeat.com/2016/03/18/pw...rded-in-total/

The sponsors said that it's not worth paying hackers to find vulnerabilities in Firefox because it's too easy.

Where do they say that? I read the venturebeat article you linked to and I find no mention. I'd be curious to see the statement in context, and to know who said it.

PACMANchasingme 11-30-2016 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by notKlaatu (Post 5636021)
Where do they say that? I read the venturebeat article you linked to and I find no mention. I'd be curious to see the statement in context, and to know who said it.

https://it.slashdot.org/story/16/02/...e-its-too-easy

notKlaatu 11-30-2016 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by PACMANchasingme (Post 5636329)

Thanks.

I'm with this guy; look at the CVE stats.

It seems odd that Firefox was excluded; people do use Firefox, so why not put it to the same test as the other major browsers? If they truly believe that it's "too easy" (which is not, by the way, what pwn2own said, the quote that I could find states "We wanted to focus on the browsers that have made serious security improvements in the last year" [Gorenc], which is NOT saying "firefox is too easy") then don't award a grand prize for pwning it; make it a requirement that you first pwn firefox before you can start your attacks on the "better" ones.

Obviously, the event is a competitive event, not a scientific study.

Also, the internet is reporting about this as badly as the internet reports on everything else. Muddled, poorly cited, poorly quoted, no context. But I digress.

dave@burn-it.co.uk 12-02-2016 08:14 AM

Perhaps they were afraid that even being "easy" Firefox might still beat the others in some tests??

smallpond 12-02-2016 09:06 AM

More likely the money is coming from the companies who have lots, and Mozilla isn't one of them.


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