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Old 07-19-2011, 08:06 AM   #1
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ddos network traffic monitor graphs


Greetings,
Just need some help on interpreting some network traffic data which was captured during a DDos. It was mailed to be from a friend who runs the server, but perhaps a more learned interpretation would help my understanding of the situation.
Here are two screenshots :

http://i51.tinypic.com/2emzsj4.jpg

http://i53.tinypic.com/2pyrmtu.jpg

I have limited knowledge on the subject but from first hand it seems to me that the server is poorly configured as such low number of requests / traffic shouldn't have been able to bring the site down. Going on the data represented in the graphs what conclusions could one draw on the efficiency of server config to prevent such attacks in future. Is it indeed badly configured ?
As a novice in suck matters any feedback would definitely help with my understanding on the subject.

All feedback very welcome.

Finkelstein
 
Old 07-19-2011, 09:37 AM   #2
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Are you sure that it is a true DDoS? You certainly can't tell from those graphs. And something like slow_loris can bring down a server with very low traffic rates and can look quite similar to a DDoS.

Anyway, it probably is a sub-optimal configuration, but what kind you couldn't really tell without a load more detail.
 
Old 07-19-2011, 10:05 AM   #3
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Thanks salasi,
So what could have been responsible for the blue peak and what does this actually represent in terms of request volumes ? It does look quite menacing in pic1.
 
Old 07-19-2011, 11:29 AM   #4
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Err, almost anything. It could be a DoS, it could be a DDoS (and given that the counter measures could be far simpler for a DoS, it is not merely an idle, semantic, distinction) it could be something to do with the site content (assuming that it has content - you haven't said whether it does, but it is a strong possibility) it could be anything that makes this content suddenly more popular, it could be a massively popular site mistakenly linking to your site.

As you seem to be unwilling to add the kind of evidence (any?) that has either persuaded you or could persuade someone else that this is a DDoS, is there really any point in carrying on with this thread?
 
Old 07-19-2011, 11:40 AM   #5
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Sorry for being so vague salasi. The site does have content I was told it was a very hard DDos but judging by the basic stats in the graphs I can't think it could have been that large an attack ? I was just wanting to know what someone with expert knowledge or experience could make of the data in the graphs.

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Old 07-19-2011, 04:01 PM   #6
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You don't use graphs to investigate possible DoS and DDoS activity. And you wouldn't believe how many people that visit the forums think they're under attack when it's something else entirely (as salasi mentioned above).

A simple search of these forums should help you a bit with using the proper tools and assessment of denial-of-service-like activity. Once that is done, supply some supporting information that isn't a chart. Do this and you'll be helping the people that want to help you investigate.
 
  


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