yup

"Never trust a computer that you can't carry"... LOL

I agree though I thought we were talking about typical desktop computers?

Well I am guilty of calling anything that runs on x86 (or any 64bit variant thereof) a PC and everything else a Mac, SPARC, etc, at least to non-geeks.

Interesting...from the screenshots from an aforementioned link, Windows finally took out the "start" button and just puts a Windows logo.

Sounds farmiliar?

Since this is about the Linux-inspired version of windows, I thought I'd mention it.

Murdock

Vista looks more like Mac to me

Linux's desktop can look like anything

I just love how they made it as mac-like as as possible, but not enough to get sued by Apple

IMHO, what was wrong with the WinXP interface--or is making it prettier the only thing they COULD do, having cancelled all of the cool stuff (at least to a CS major) like WinFS? That and fixing some bugs from WinXP and probably adding an equal amount of new bugs.

when asking some (non Linux) Windows users whether or not they'll change to Vista, there reply has been something along the lines of "hell no!".

says it all in my opinion

I went to see it at the CTS tradeshow at the Birmingham NEC about 2 weeks ago. They demoed the latest build of Vista and the new Office package. Vista looks promising, I liked the interface, alt and tabbing now gives you a preview of each window, a 3D window switchy thing was there too , those kinda little touches. Office had no toolbars! They appeared when you clicked the menubar such as File I think, I couldn't really tell but it looked interesting. We are waiting for a Windows Vista BETA, as we are a Microsoft partner, it will be a chance to get up close and personal with it! Ohh and I saw the parental controls, security features and a little slideshow where they talked about the usual blurb! What I didn't like was the booth had an ORANGE carpet LOL!! It felt nice underfoot but it was ORANGE AAAAAARGH!!! Also the employees were funny!

yep I belive the "revolutionary" new menu will be named something along the lines of a "ribbon". though I could see possible advantages I think it just makes things more difficult for users when they suddenly have a new GUI to deal with, especially if someone is new to computing as they have the old and new to contend with which they would likely find confusing imho

It'll be as good as KDE was in 1998 at this rate :P

Yeah. . .Gates has wet dreams of making the Chinese pay for software.

Anyway, the MSH thing that they tried including in Vista during its Palladium/Longhorn stage seemed like a rip off to me.

It was also funny that Microsoft kept whining "oh, Vista is going to be impervious to viruses" and that fell flat on its face after some hacker took two months to code a virus for their imitation shell. As I recall, they pulled the entire plan.

Now, they say they're not even going to integrate an anti-virus application in the Vista NGSCB (or rather, what remains of it) . . .

Just XP with brushed windows.
If I wanted that I'd install the Crystal windeco with its Vista scheme, and Plastik.
It would do a much better job.

I expect Vista to be like Windows ME (It's not Windows 98 but It looks somewhat like Windows 2000....with a ton of bugs). It's just going to be an update to the GUI. Sure there will be a few other things but I thought Vista's major feature was supposed to be WinFS?

Windows ME was Fat32 (no NTFS).
Windows Vista is NTFS (no WinFS).

I'm sure I'll be running a copy of Vista on some computer somewhere (work probably). I'll stick with Windows XP as long as I can for my gaming needs. I'll upgrade to Vista when game producers stop supporting XP.

I'm in the process of switching my main computer over to Linux at the moment...I'm just trying to settle on a distro.

That's something else they pulled.

Why did they want to have a new filesystem anyway?

NTFS seems fine for a filesystem. Moreover, who really ever took advantage of NTFS anyways besides its default configuration? Most computers I've seen basically have the administrator and users. Windows users never got hold of the permissions concecpt very well. Heck, at least a third of XPs I've seen were installed onto a FAT32 filesystem.

Murdock

In it's purist form, the term PC inludes Macs.

However in commonspeak (if you will), PCs are really computers that will run Microsoft OSes.