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Penguin of Wonder 02-14-2006 01:05 PM

Windows Vista --- wait all those thing sound linux?
 
I found this page on Yahoo! News. Yes Yahoo! for all you Google fanatics... i love Yahoo.

Windows Vista News Article

What do you guys think? Is the technology behind current and soon-to-be versions of Linux as advanced as Vista is claiming to be? How many of those features sound like a rip-off of what Linux already offers? Finally, does anyone here plan on switching to Vista from XP or, dare I say it, switching to Vista from Linux?

the_darkside_986 03-22-2006 05:28 PM

The new graphical system sounds like a waste of resources. Who needs a fancier window bar? The stuff inside the window, not the three buttons in the top right corner ( _, [], and X), is what matters. I won't be purchasing or running it on my old PC anytime. Besides, when new hardware comes out, Windows should sit still and allow that power to be harnessed by games instead of taking up over 700 MB when the machine has 1024 MB of RAM.

They said on NPR news that Vista final release is going to be delayed until January (I think) next year for customers to buy, but it will be available for big businesses in November as planned. I guess that means I shouldn't buy a new desktop PC until next year :(. I need Windows for gaming (only) but I think it is important to have the newest OS for compatibility reasons. But then again, the MSDNAA software package at school might be able to hook us students up with Vista when it comes out.

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2. Internet Explorer 7: IE gets a much-needed, Firefox-inspired makeover, complete with tabbed pages and better privacy management. There's also the color-coded Address Bar that lets you know if a page is secured by a digital key, or, thanks to new antiphishing features, if it's a phony Web site just looking to steal information about you.
It's kinda pathetic that fancy expensive professional commercial software is pure crap until it copies the ideas of a higher quality free open-source solution. But this is the pattern of Microsoft. And I'm still going to use Firefox.

Even if I have Vista on a new PC, I'm still going to use Linux for my non-gaming tasks. Right now, I'm d/ling Fedora Core 5. I am going to make it run on my machine. I don't know how, but I am determined.

TigerLinux 03-22-2006 10:56 PM

Vista is delayed to 2007, so long to wait? XP is good enough.

Penguin of Wonder 03-22-2006 11:01 PM

I think Vista will be worth the wait though. The longer Microsoft takes making it, hopefully the fewer flaws it will ship with.

the_darkside_986 03-23-2006 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Penguin of Wonder
I think Vista will be worth the wait though. The longer Microsoft takes making it, hopefully the fewer flaws it will ship with.

As sloppy as Microsoft's OS's are, the longer it takes them to make it, the more bugs and security holes it will ship with. :P

I'll have to get a new PC by then anyways because I can't get Fedora Core 5 installed because my crappy non-upgradable BIOS can't boot from USB CD Drives :mad: and the installation guide says that it is not possible to boot from floppies to install FC5. And I'm sure it will be the same for Vista. Compaq can go to hell for not making the PC with upgradable BIOS. If only I knew about PC's what I know now when my parents bought that $1500 outdated thing.

nx5000 03-23-2006 06:12 AM

"to Vista from XP"

First I would have to switch from 2000 to XP but I see no technical argument.

"Security, security, security: Windows XP Service Pack 2 patched a lot of holes, but Vista takes security to the next level. There are literally too many changes to list here, from the bidirectional software firewall"
Muahaha bidirectionnal firewall waouhhhh

weibullguy 03-23-2006 08:24 AM

I agree, alot of the things sound Linux.
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Meet the old boss, same as the new boss...
probably sums Vista up, but we'll see.

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It's kinda pathetic that fancy expensive professional commercial software is pure crap until it copies the ideas of a higher quality free open-source solution. But this is the pattern of Microsoft.
Let's not forget that Microsoft hasn't had an original idea since...ever! DOS was an imitation, Windows was an imitation. There's a sucker born every minute and Bill Gates has sold every one of them an OS.

den15 03-23-2006 09:32 AM

"Compaq can go to hell for not making the PC with upgradable BIOS."

:D Compaq doesn't exist any more!

the_darkside_986 03-23-2006 12:48 PM

Yeah I know HP acquired them. They can still go to hell even if they are now inside HP. And HP can also go to hell because their printer I tried to use today on my dad's PC won't work right. They way its designed--it can't detect any paper in the feed.

geeman2.0 03-23-2006 01:24 PM

It may SOUND like linux, but it certainly won't LOOK like linux.
Not as long as they still have talking paper clips anyways.

jproveaux 03-23-2006 01:56 PM

Some really creative individual decided to post this "really creative" post at arstechnica.com forums:

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Vista -> Beta until December .......
Linux -> Beta forever
Vista will ultimately have it's proper applications in the business world. Major corporations are going to side with Microsoft because the product looks, smells, feels more reliable on paper and really that's all companies are looking for.

That being said...Wintendo:Vista will be another gaming OS to add to my collection.

Linux scares people.

Hobbletoe 03-23-2006 02:16 PM

Why the delay you ask ...
 
Even better are the reasons for the delay ...

"Jim Allchin, co-president of Microsoft's Platforms & Services Division and head Vista honcho, said that Vista's quality problems are in performance, drivers, testing, and security."

The above from Linux Watch.

moloko23 03-23-2006 06:39 PM

I think I'll switch to Vista on my Windows machine. I use XP just for gaming, everything else is done using Mac OS and now I'm becoming accustomed to Linux. I say UNIX OS' will always be the leaders and MS will just slug behind and try to overtake by tempting consumers with eye candy interfaces. I don't really need that, unless of course its a game, then I love the eye candy, but if I have a serious task I'd rather take care of it in an environment more like Mac OS 8.

nx5000 03-24-2006 04:12 AM

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Originally Posted by the_darkside_986
And HP can also go to hell

I understand you can be angry due to not working hardware but world is not perfect.. have a look at kernel.org you will see that HP is kind enough to provide servers for repositories of Linux kernels.

nirmaltom 03-24-2006 06:28 AM

hi,
i am from india.When Microsoft launched WindowsXp in india,it challenged that the people wont be able to pirate this operating system as both india and china are famous for pirating.But the really fun matter is that pirated copies were made available before its launch.So , i think its merely a waste of time to look over microsoft's promises.
Also,due to the money value here, it will never capture the desktop market here.If it captures then it will be pirated.Any how, it may get its revenue by the large number of software companies available here.
regards,
Tom.


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