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Old 12-16-2006, 10:49 AM   #1
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Vista not compatible with SQL server


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But now Microsoft has a problem. Vista, its long-awaited update to the Windows operating system, can't run the current version of SQL Server. The company is working on a SQL upgrade that is compatible with Vista - called SQL Server 2005 Express Service Pack 2 - but it's in beta and can be licensed only for testing purposes. Microsoft hasn't set a release date for the new SQL program.
http://money.cnn.com/2006/12/14/maga...biz2/index.htm

i know this is not linux news directly, but indirectly it is GREAT news for Linux. One more bullet for your gun to fight MS and Vista upgrades to help you guide companies and customers towards Linux instead of MS.
 
Old 12-18-2006, 04:29 AM   #2
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http://money.cnn.com/2006/12/14/maga...biz2/index.htm

i know this is not linux news directly, but indirectly it is GREAT news for Linux. One more bullet for your gun to fight MS and Vista upgrades to help you guide companies and customers towards Linux instead of MS.

IMO Vista will take another three to four months to reach the home users.
 
Old 12-18-2006, 08:52 AM   #3
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Good Job bill :S
 
Old 12-18-2006, 06:16 PM   #4
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IMO Vista will take another three to four months to reach the home users.
And it'll take about another month to startup.
 
Old 12-19-2006, 02:38 AM   #5
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And it'll take about another month to startup.

We all are hearing this for the last five years and still there is no assurance and one cannot rely on MS anymore atleast me.
 
Old 12-20-2006, 10:31 AM   #6
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MS has been losing ground to linux/unix in the server market for many years. One of the reasons that I am now a Linux user is because MS servers are just too expensive and complex to own and operate.

Honestly, here is the TCO comparison:

Windows ServerXXXX,

Premium Server hardware to run bloated MS OS: $50,000-100,000 USD
(This assumes a small installation with a failover server option and no major rewiring of the premises or the addition of supporting network devices.)

Software licensing for servers, multi-year support, per client licenses.
$50,000 USD++ (Cost varies according to incentives and nation of installation)

Cost of Labor: MSCE certified server admin with BS in computer science and 5+ years of work experience $70,000-100,000 USD per year.

Then there are all the other little, nickel and dime, things that you have to purchase to own and operate a windows network, such as: Anti-virus software for your server and your client desktops, proprietary business messaging applications such as lotus notes, etc.

The bottom line is that after all of the expense of rolling out a windows based server you only get an 80% reliable product. Not to mention all the maintenance that windows servers require just to keep the software running.


Linux server

Premium server hardware certified to work with an enterprise class Linux distribution. $50,000-100,000 USD
(This assumes a small installation with a failover server option and no major rewiring of the premises or the addition of supporting network devices.)

Distribution Support Contract (optional but recommended for mission critical installations) $25,000-50,000 USD
Contracts vary as per distribution and type of support offered.

Cost of Labor: Server admin with a MS in Computer science and 5+ years of work experience $70,000-100,000 USD per year.

Mostly free software (Although donations to OSS projects are recommended.) for the small stuff like AV and Business messaging.

Bottom line is that the cost of owing and operating a Linux based server is slightly lower or almost as expensive as a window server (depending on vendor agreements.) with a higher level of server reliability. You can expect 98-99.999% from Linux systems with knowledgeable and experienced admins.

So the conclusion is that while the cost is in the same ballpark area the reliability for the product purchased is significantly different. 20% downtime is just not acceptable in some industries and the cost of covering that downtime with additional servers increases the cost of operating the systems by 100% or more.
 
Old 01-13-2007, 06:27 PM   #7
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I don't find this surprising in the least-MS releasing a new os version and current apps won't work. Makes one wonder about their beta testing doesn't it.
 
Old 01-14-2007, 12:53 AM   #8
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I sincerely hope Vista will be the last ever OS Microsoft produces.
 
Old 01-14-2007, 07:39 AM   #9
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To be honest I dont see what all the fuss is about. Vista has only just been released, of course there is going to be problems. Looking at this from outside the box we could say mysql is the problem since the software isnt compatible with vista.

Linux has many problems with compatability due to companies not supporting it. However all the focus seems to be on Microsoft even thought their problems are minor compared to Linux distros.
 
Old 01-14-2007, 06:39 PM   #10
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To be honest I dont see what all the fuss is about. Vista has only just been released, of course there is going to be problems. Looking at this from outside the box we could say mysql is the problem since the software isnt compatible with vista.

Linux has many problems with compatability due to companies not supporting it. However all the focus seems to be on Microsoft even thought their problems are minor compared to Linux distros.

hmm lets see, supported by 3rd party companies or supported by your own company are 2 different issues.

in the example you listed with linux compatibilities, that is 3rd party support and has NOTHING to do with support for your own product.

Now if Debian also created a massive data base program, then all of the sudden decided to release Debian 4.0, but create 4.0 in such a way that it was NO LONGER compatible with that massive data base program that Debian has created, then you would be talking about the same kind of issue as for MS creating Vista and making it so that Vista is not compatible with MS SQL server.
 
Old 01-15-2007, 04:19 AM   #11
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Hmm, I can see your point but Linux isnt as such a company. Since Linux distros are so diverse programs even designed to work on Linux usually have difficulty to get working. Linux really needs an overall standard so that large companies are able to design drivers, programs and games for Linux. Without a standard to follow Linux will never come close to threatening Microsoft for Desktop OS.

The main issue I have is people already knocking off vista. Its a new release and there are going to be problems to begin with. I would pay for Windows Vista once it has been out for a few months. Bill Gates has given so much of his money to charity its insane. I have been using Windows Xp for a good 4 years now and I have had no problems with it at all! If you set up Windows correctly everything is fine.
 
Old 01-15-2007, 04:53 AM   #12
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Well I think we should give some space to Microsoft before and after the launch of Vista.No software in the world is perfect in this world right from the beginning.
We are the one's who can help Vista to become the best Operating system of century hopefully.
 
Old 03-16-2007, 09:08 AM   #13
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Well I think we should give some space to Microsoft before and after the launch of Vista.No software in the world is perfect in this world right from the beginning.
We are the one's who can help Vista to become the best Operating system of century hopefully.
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