i was amused that such a news would be posted by so many sites ,
as a verdor which os pre-installed depends on its commercial profile but when it comes to the user it's up to what they like.i mean that what os the vendor installed is not import ,everthing relay on the user.they can instll whatever they like linux /mc/others.Dell just take the passion of the open source and putting an add.

You can always customize the notebook and choose the "256MB NVIDIA GeForce Go 7300 TurboCache" option for an extra $79.

At least you know now that the E1505N is hardware compatible with a major Linux distro, so just about any other major distro should have no problem installing and working properly if you choose to do so.

Crapware (mostly trial software) that companies pay Dell to get their junk preinstalled on each Windows installation.

That ATI card is crap. I'd much rather have the working Intel 950GMA.

I was just wondering if one were to acquire a complete computing solution from Dell with Ubuntu... and by this I mean:

-Desktop machine with accelerated 3D graphics card,
-monitor, mouse, keyboard,
-WiFi capabilities,
-dialup hardware,
-printer,
-scanner,
-firewire peripherals,
-bluetooth peripherals,
-a funky 7.1 surround sound card,
-a digital still/video camera,
-gaming peripherals (gamepad, wheel, joystick, etc)
-a wacom pad thingy,
-PDA (Palm, etc)
-<insert any hardware or peripheral you wish to use>...

would they (Dell) be able to provide the customer with the appropriate hardware that would 'just work' when i plugged it in? without coming over here and asking you guys what command i should type in...

If this is the case... Linux should be in for a big boost... and if not, it should be. especially for people who will have a choice between Windows and Ubuntu with a small price difference. Isn't that the reason people go to big companies for? to get that complete solution... more savvy folk go out and buy components after some research.

just my

I hope so, but seems like DELL is at begining stage of deploy Linux solutions, it can't satisfy alot of linux users (Of course windows users). I hope they can continuously improve their product and services. Since dell is a big player. The success of their product will force many IT accessory manufacturer to support linux as well.

Let's see how dell play the game

However, personally I think HP can do better because they have longer experience in Linux. Unfortunately they refuse to provide Desktop/Laptop with pre-installed Linux.

Regards
Ks

if this is a success hp won't take long to join in

Check this out on the Dell website: "Ubuntu has arrived, by popular demand"! Nice

http://www.dell.com/content/topics/s...=19&l=en&s=dhs

the only way that banner will stay that way is if the Linux community, and new users of course, keep it that way with their wallets... and that is the hard part. Then there is the skeptical camp who say that Dell has only just jumped onto the bandwagon to grab market from smaller players who have been providing solid hardware solutions for Linux for a long time.

Personally, in the country i live in and my home country, there are no official Dell retail outlets. but when I purchased my laptop I specifically bought from the vendor that sold it with Linux preinstalled. Only problem was that the only ones I could find had an unusable distro from a newbie's point of view... it was Linpus with CLI only. Of course the sales person had to throw in the line that any Windows XP will install on it... and he was quite taken aback when I told him that I was looking for a machine to run Linux and I required all the hardware to be supported. I ended up getting an Acer Aspire 3003NLMi.

So hopefully, with Dell pushing Ubuntu into the mainstream, such scenarios will become a rarity... still, we hold the power in our wallets.

http://www.dell.com/

Refresh a couple times until you see the special message.

I honestly don't care whether its succesful or not. Linux adoption is far from dependanding on Dell sales. Why I do think it is so exciting is because it shows that linux is getting so popular. _So_ popular that a large company like Dell is willing to infest in it. Note that I marked by popular demand. Why are we not so excited by this milestone? This is a huge leap forward for Linux recognition.

I do not want to sound counter-productive... but the Linux community has always been very vocal when it comes to want we want and promoting it. That is why we made a big noise on Dell's BrainStorm site. Now I am not 100% sure but I think Dell is not the first major company to provide Linux on the Desktop. Only thing is that the others (probably Dell is included here) pulled the plug on those services. I don't see why Dell wouldn't pull the plug if offering Ubuntu preinstalled didn't make financial sense.

On the other hand, down-playing this whole thing is not right because Linux on the Desktop has certainly come a very long way. It is not perfect and is behind the competition in some areas but the opportunity that we have been provided should definitely not be missed.

We, the community, should push for widespread desktop adoption of Linux. So, if Dell's venture is a success, other big players would want a piece of the pie... and they would jump on the bandwagon. This would result in hardware manufacturers wanting Linux users buying their products... and why would we buy their products if they didn't provide support and drivers for them? Also, more coders will start developing for Linux (open and closed source) as there will simply be a market for it. You see, this would give us an even stronger voice in the market, and we stand to benefit from this.

Do you see where I'm getting? ok Linux adoption doesn't depend on Dell's success, but this sure is a great launch pad for that adoption. I still say we should put our money where our mouths are. And since, generally speaking, we are more computer savvy, the onus is on us inform others about Linux and Dell's offers, help people we convince to use Linux, participate and help out in forums, etc...

What it boils down to is the only real driving force behind GNU/Linux is us the community!

I read an article which stated that desktop Linux adoption has got a hard deadline to make an impact on the market... and that deadline? 2008! why? because the desktop environment is making a transition from 32bit to 64bit systems and which ever OS takes the lead as the low end market switches to 64bit is going to determine the dominant OS. The article is quite long but makes for good reading.

In my earlier post I mentioned Dell's hardware support and options on Ubuntu. I found this site which answers some questions...

64-bit has already arrived... I think we don't have any longer because I think the pc in it's current form will dissapear. By current form I mean the combination of a (often huge) case (if any), keyboard, mice and (waybe even, but that might take longer,) computerscreen. Some will say that "Linux is just a kernel so what are you talking about?", well... marketshare when we still have the time to make it visible to the avarage Joe. My theory: Who owns the desktop in the end of it's lifetime, will own the future of computing. We have to learn from histhory and make sure microsoft doesn't grab that market like they did with the pc. It will be exciting. We now know what Microsoft is up to, now we have to find out what apple's been doing (leopard last Mac OS X)

Then again, I might be completely wrong Who knows?

The most significant thing is that this comes with "In-the-home" support for the hardware. Since they ship with the install complete and working, then this is the way to start for someone with no experience at all. Most users are going to be people who unpack the computer plug it in, and expect it to work straight away. In the main we aren't those people.