Is Ubuntu Linux Slowly Dying?
All right! I've waited four hours for LXer to pick up this link, and I just ran out of patience.
Every time one of Debian's typical little developer spats pushes it's way into the public consciousness, there is a spate of articles celebrating the fact that this time, for sure, Debian is imploding, and anyway people want the flashy derivatives not the old and tired Mama. This article isn't inspired by anything so titillating, just observation and analysis. Do I believe it? Who knows ... I'm old enough to have forsworn prophecy as an interesting but unreliable exercise. |
Hardly earth-shattering. I've been leery from the start
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Moved to Linux-News
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I agree with everything in this article [because I wrote it].
Here is a bit more clarification that I posted on Digg... http://digg.com/linux_unix/Is_Ubuntu_Linux_slowly_dying Quote:
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Put millions of dollars yearly into any distro, and it will quickly move to # 1 ... for as long as the money keeps flowing in.
Linspire seems to be finding a niche for itself as a profit maker. Their deal with Ubuntu was very good for them. Whether they use Ubuntu or Debian as the source for software makes very little difference to them. They now have the benefit of Shuttleworth's millions in advertising, and a good base from which to establish CNR. I assume that Linspire gets a cut from every program sold from the CNR store, no matter what distro the buyer was using. When Canonical folds, Linspire may well be in a position to pick up the pieces. |
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You'll have a hard time finding a question that doesn't get answered. I was and am still more put-off by the image Ubuntu is trying to create, but I'm willing to ignore that. I guess there is money in the desktop market. If it's support for businesses, or for the home desktop - which would be reasonable if pc's will be sold with ubuntu pre-installed. I bought a support version of suse twice. The first one was 7.0, the second 10.0. Another reason to pay for it would be for the documentation. Currently you can get Edgy packaged in all big software stores around here (austria). It comes with a manual, support and a cheesy game... And it looks sharp. |
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With the new look I assume they are trying to move away from the desktop and onto the Server. Hense the "choose desktop or server edition" main categories. It still looks sloppy, or half attempted. Quote:
Anyone else see the death spiral pattern here? Things are finally starting to unwind at Ubuntu. There is only so much work you can put into a project, while not realizing any meaningful returns, before animosity and/or indifference start to appear [within the project, towards the project]. |
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But what if it did happen? There's too many distros available to worry about it. :twocents: I will admit, though, you're right in that there's no profit in desktop distros; again, there's too many available. If it doesn't work, switch. I certainly wouldn't pay $900-$4000 per year for 24x7 support for a free OS! |
http://www.google.com/trends?q=ubuntu
Not a downward Spiral in my book. And Feisty contains some of the most awesome improvements I've seen in a linux distribution. Even if - as unlikely as it seems to me - Ubuntu should go down... It will be taken up by another team, and on we go. The closest it could come to dying is being merged with ex-Lindows (can't they stop changing names constantly!!... I can't memorize all that crap!) or debian. |
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I think alot of people are getting the wrong picture. Alot of linux code has been written by companies, because they want to sell linux systems and support them. Cygnus, IBM, Redhat, Suse,... There is a Market for linux... until now it has been mostly for the server, but I'm positive that it can be successful on the desktop too. |
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What type of profit have they made from the linux desktop? Excluding the 100s of millions they got from the Microsoft deal. [I have no idea myself, just asking] Quote:
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If they are going for the server market, might as well cater to it. Edit: I was actually referring to the 1st (?) redesign, with the giant pic of the laptop on it. It looked very odd. At this point I'm not even sure what they have changed and when. It looks ok now. In my opinion things are not so peachy within Ubuntu core anymore. In a few years we will know. Until then... |
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Yes, they want to make a profit. Yes, they're shifting business practices to reach that goal. And yes, I agree it's not likely to happen by selling support for the desktop to the "average joe", which is admittedly the original target for Ubuntu. However, again, does it really matter? As Oskar said, another team will pick it up, and on we go. And if not, there's too many distros available to worry about it. But I've yet to see any real news stories concerning Ubuntu's 'demise', and have a hard time understanding why anyone feels a need to spread FUD. |
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I'm just saying it looks like someone is making a profit here. Quote:
Also I'm not quite shure what your understanding of "marketing" is. |
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Spending millions and not getting anything back is not a good thing IMO, for the business or the team. Anyways, I think at this point there is not much more to discuss. The future is uncertain at best, by definition... Which is just about what Mr. Shuttleworth has stated himself. Give it another 2-3 years, and we will see. I wish Canonical/Ubuntu the best of luck. |
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