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Old 06-30-2009, 12:18 AM   #1
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Zimbra


hai


Pls tel me cost of zimbra network edition for corparate use.

Thank u
 
Old 06-30-2009, 01:22 AM   #2
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iffin u wnt 2 no da cost of summin den col da pepol sellin it, lik dis:
http://www.zimbra.com/products/pricing.html

If you want to ask questions on a forum, then please try to make your post look like you are intelligent - that semi-coherent pidgin you are using does not cut it. If you cannot be bothered to type complete words, why should we be bothered to type complete answers?

This is even more important in an international forum where English may not be everyone's first language, especially if it is not yours. Bear in mind that you are not just writing for yourself, and the person who knows the answer, but for any poor newbie who googles to this post with a similar problem. Also, to any future employer who googles after you to see what you are like online.

(excuse me - you are not the worst I've seen today, I've just seen a lot of this all in one go.)

Last edited by Simon Bridge; 06-30-2009 at 01:24 AM.
 
Old 06-30-2009, 03:31 AM   #3
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Zimbra Problem Update

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iffin u wnt 2 no da cost of summin den col da pepol sellin it, lik dis:
http://www.zimbra.com/products/pricing.html

If you want to ask questions on a forum, then please try to make your post look like you are intelligent - that semi-coherent pidgin you are using does not cut it. If you cannot be bothered to type complete words, why should we be bothered to type complete answers?

This is even more important in an international forum where English may not be everyone's first language, especially if it is not yours. Bear in mind that you are not just writing for yourself, and the person who knows the answer, but for any poor newbie who googles to this post with a similar problem. Also, to any future employer who googles after you to see what you are like online.

(excuse me - you are not the worst I've seen today, I've just seen a lot of this all in one go.)
Thank u for this mail.


I will try to rectify my problem.Thank u for your advice.
 
Old 06-30-2009, 09:52 AM   #4
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Did you find the information you wanted?

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Thank u for this mail.
I will try to rectify my problem.Thank u for your advice.
I understand that English is a tricky and difficult language for some people, even some who grow up with it. Since you say you want to improve, I'll help...

... a dot has a space after it when you want to end a sentence. See? In that case it is called a full stop or a period. Otherwise, in English, the dot may join-up the words on each side. In computers, a dot has a special meaning, like in a url, so it can be quite important to get this right.

... when you want to write "you", do so. The contraction "u" commonly stands for other things like "university" or "unit". It is only acceptable in telephone txt or sms messages where the additional keystrokes are a bit of a pain. On a computer keyboard, it is not so onerous, so when you use the contraction you are sending the message that you are too lazy to type two extra characters. This is very lazy indeed. You should consider, if you cannot be bothered to type two characters, why should anyone else be bothered to type many more to help you?

The only people with an excuse are quadraplegics who type via a rod strapped to their foreheads or twitching a limb. If you are one of these, I apologise. However, the quadraplegics I know pride themselves on clear and complete writing - these are people who have great difficulty communicating in real life so they are prepared to put in the extra effort to be clear online. Also, they don't want to look like a cripple.

... if you are really sincere about wanting to avoid a mistake, at least look like you are trying. It is inadvisable to repeat the mistake when you make the assurance, it can appear insulting in many nationalities. However, I know that if I attempted to write in many languages I risk giving offense also, so I'm not bothered.

In an international forum, clear communication is imperative. This forum chooses to restrict our language use to English, which, some people have commented, is often clumsy. You don't have to be good at it. Being deliberately bad is often counter-productive. Read the advise link in my sig and the forum rules for guidelines on the dos and donts of requesting aid online.

Last edited by Simon Bridge; 07-01-2009 at 09:20 AM. Reason: fixed typo
 
Old 07-01-2009, 05:50 AM   #5
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If you are not a native speaker, i.e. English is a 2nd language for you, you can indicate that by putting your true location in your profile. I, & suspect more than a few others, have more patience w/ foreigners who are trying than native speakers who know better.

Also, unless you suspect a poster is likely to remove his/her content w/ an edit, quoting the immediately preceding post in its entirety only clutters the thread.

I especially like these ideas:
"If you're too lazy to type, I'm too lazy to read."
"If you're too lazy to think through your problem (& state it clearly), then so am I (& give you any answer, let alone a useful one).


BTW, Simon, wtf is 'oul' -- methinks there's a typo that needs fixing.
 
Old 07-01-2009, 09:26 AM   #6
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BTW, Simon, wtf is 'oul' -- methinks there's a typo that needs fixing.
Yes it is, and it's a bad one too ... it is "our". I have non standard typos because I use dvorak. I think I did well considering I typed that at 2am NZDT.

You are right about the "edit your profile" bit, it also helps the more internationally experienced of us parse a post better if we have some idea of where someone comes from. We can account for cultural variations - even put a reasonable accent which gets the rythm of the post.

It can also mean that you get help from a countryman - I don't criticize language skill so much when it is one countryman to another. Though it is still a good idea to be clear for the sake of the noxt poor sod with the same problem.
 
  


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