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Old 10-21-2003, 02:30 AM   #1
hughgjohnson
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zillionth request for tut for creating and installing linux


The Short Version:
Where are the hold your hand step-by-step tutorials? Or better yet documentionation to show a newbie how to create a boot disk, partition your hd, install a distro, etc.

Long-winded, make you swell up a tear version:
I'll admit I've often been curious, but afraid of installing linux on my only computer. Well today I don't have to worry since I aquired an old dual PII HP workstation.

I downloaded the boot from cd version of SuSE 9.0 copied the contents to a cd and plopped it into the HP giddy as a Japanese school girl on holiday. Then, the HP spit the cd out and said it can't boot from it.

Now, I don't want to be one of those whiners saying there isn't any documentation, yadda yadda yadda, but where is the documentation? Honest I've searched the fourms, but I get this feeling I'm not in on the joke because there always seems to be lots of assumptions that I should know how to do most of this stuff but when I download the files I don't know what to do with them since there's no documention.

Thanks!

HUGHG
 
Old 10-21-2003, 03:54 AM   #2
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Did you burn the ISO?
 
Old 10-21-2003, 04:23 AM   #3
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SuSE documentation is virtually non-existent. Unless you have a registered copy. Unfortunetly there is no generic tutorial. Each distro has it's own installation procedure.

If you want documetation, I would try Red Hat, Slackware, or Debian. All there web sites have excellent docs.
 
Old 10-21-2003, 06:38 AM   #4
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Try Redhat

I would suggest visting google.com/linux and type in burning linux iso images. It will give you many sites with step by step procedures. I'm a newbie also and went with Redhat as it's easy to configure and use. Redhat also has a decent site with documentation and an online manual. The fun (?) part of linux is researching online the information that usually comes with windoze.

Hope this helps a little.
 
Old 10-21-2003, 07:34 AM   #5
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Have a look at the CD under Windows. Is there just one big file there - the one you downloaded? Then you have not burnt the CD correctly. The 'ISO image' you downloaded is not a file, it's the raw data making up the CD so you have to make the CD accordingly. Don't ask me how to do it in Windows, I never had to do that.

As for the choice of distro, what do you want out of linux and how much is your time worth? If you just want to 'have a look' I'd go for Knoppix, which does not even alter your hard disk and has a good support site at www.knoppix.net.

If you want good documentation and a slew of applications up and running as quickly as possible, there is something to be said for splurging on a boxed distro like SuSE, which comes with a bunch of nice little books which explain what to do and what is happening. Pretty hard to follow an on-line tutorial if your system is not working properly.
 
Old 10-21-2003, 11:56 AM   #6
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Thanks all!

I familiar with burning Cd's (isos) on windows, but when I down load the images of debian and suse I can't seem to make them work correctly with Nero (v6.15).

As far as documentation I understand that each dist has their own specific to install, but I'm stuck trying to make a boot disk, and it seems as far I can tell the majority of developers assume I should know how to do this.

Basically, I want to make this PII machine a linux only system. It has one IDE HD, CD, floppy and one SCSI drive. Do I need to boot to msdos, or can I totally scrap that? The docs I read come from the POV that I'll have a Windows partition and a Linux partition.

Sorry for being so basic, but I REALLY appreciate all your help!

HUGHG
 
Old 10-21-2003, 12:14 PM   #7
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burning iso images

This worked for me using Nero.


1) start nero (or the program that u use)
2) complie a new cd
3) Other Cd format (not audio or data cds)
4) Burn from an image file (.iso or .nrg)
5) select the .iso images to burn the three cds.

Hope it helps
 
Old 10-21-2003, 12:18 PM   #8
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It's even easier. In Nero, click 'File', then click 'Burn Image', then select the image you have to burn it.
 
Old 10-22-2003, 12:49 AM   #9
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All you need for a linux-only install is a bootable CD. If you can't make a bootable CD either you have a hardware problem or you are doing something strange in the downloading/burning process. Better post exactly the steps you are doing!
 
Old 10-22-2003, 01:16 AM   #10
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The Knopix run Linux from CD offers a more painless approach to trying Linux should you choose.
Otherwise it is reading more docs or posting exact error messages.
 
Old 10-23-2003, 01:08 AM   #11
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status of my installation

Well, after snooping around (don't ask me where) I found out I needed to make a boot disk using rawwrite. Great little program. Got Suse to boot and start the install. Tried to make "CD Image 1" whicht the setup program kept asking for. Then downloaded 7gb of files and then final read that I couldn't make a cd from the downloaded version. So tried to SMB which kept telling me it couldn't find the image as well. Deleted 7gb of files and tried ftp'ing. Finally after what seemed like zillions of nanoseconds got to the Yast installer and Yast said it couldn't find the software images as well.

So, after poking around and not liking the downloads I was getting from other distributions I settled on Mandrake 9.1 and am currently installing CD 1 as I type.

Barring any futher hickups, I will be soon a frequent poster on the Mandrake forum.

Thank you all again for your help.

Hugh
 
Old 10-24-2003, 05:50 PM   #12
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You could boot from the floppy, load your nic drivers, select manual installation->ftp etc.
 
  


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