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Old 02-02-2016, 07:54 PM   #16
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Thank you. I was really hoping to continue using Iceweasel browser and playing videos on html5.

This is weird because I think Firefox has the 'update browser' option.
yeah I was just there if you take theirs off of their web, compile and install it then you can, if you get it out of your distro repo then no.

I actually think my firefox uses html5 too, because before I moded/hack my flash plugin it (youtube) was still working with an out dated flash plugin.

you cannot take source for iceweasel and install it like that.. or did you say they are discontinuing support. (which i can find out after I post this and go back and read all of the post again).

just un-install the repo iceweasel then compile and install it from source, when ever it is updated all you have to do is the same.

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Old 02-02-2016, 08:17 PM   #17
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What is the Iceweasel version you're using? Mine is 13.3.0.
What version of Debian are you using? That's SUPREMELY old version. Wheezy & Jessie both have version 38.6!!
 
Old 02-02-2016, 08:31 PM   #18
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I actually think my firefox uses html5 too, because before I moded/hack my flash plugin it (youtube) was still working with an out dated flash plugin.
To watch Youtube on html5 you first need to go to this page https://www.youtube.com/html5?gl=GBand press the activate button at the bottom. The button will change to black.
If you're not doing this, then you're probably using Flash.

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just un-install the repo iceweasel then compile and install it from source, when ever it is updated all you have to do is the same.
Well, if 'apt-get upgrade' doesn't update Iceweasel on Debian stable, then it looks like uninstalling and re-installing is my only option.
However, there has to be a better way for updating Iceweasel.
 
Old 02-02-2016, 08:33 PM   #19
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Can you post your /etc/apt/sources.list file, and also any files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/? There's GOT to be something messed up that your iceweasel is several YEARS out of date.
 
Old 02-02-2016, 08:40 PM   #20
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What version of Debian are you using? That's SUPREMELY old version. Wheezy & Jessie both have version 38.6!!
Code:
$ uname -a
Linux debian1 3.2.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.2.65-1 x86_64 GNU/Linux
My Debian version should be up-to-date.
However, it's fairly clear my Iceweasel version is not up-to-date.
 
Old 02-02-2016, 08:53 PM   #21
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To watch Youtube on html5 you first need to go to this page https://www.youtube.com/html5?gl=GBand press the activate button at the bottom. The button will change to black.
If you're not doing this, then you're probably using Flash.



Well, if 'apt-get upgrade' doesn't update Iceweasel on Debian stable, then it looks like uninstalling and re-installing is my only option.
However, there has to be a better way for updating Iceweasel.
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What does this browser support?

HTMLVideoElement
H.264
WebM VP8

Media Source Extensions
MSE & H.264
MSE & WebM VP9

The HTML5 player is currently used when possible.
Supported Browsers

Many browsers support both the video element in HTML5 and either the H.264 video codec or the WebM format. These include:

Google Chrome
Microsoft Internet Explorer
Firefox
Opera
Apple Safari
everything is already checked off all of them I'm good to go ...
 
Old 02-02-2016, 08:57 PM   #22
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Can you post your /etc/apt/sources.list file, and also any files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/? There's GOT to be something messed up that your iceweasel is several YEARS out of date.
Code:
/etc/apt$ cat sources.list
deb http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free
/etc/apt/sources.list.d shows nothing with the ls command.
 
Old 02-02-2016, 09:02 PM   #23
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OK...was this a wheezy install originally?

And if so, did you ever do a dist-upgrade isntead of just upgrade?
 
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everything is already checked off all of them I'm good to go ...
Yes, but if you have Flash already installed, then I think Youtube videos will still play using Flash.
To be certain I'm using html5, I use a distro which doesn't have Flash installed.
I then go to the Youtube html5 activation page and activate the html5 player.

The reason for not using Flash is because it has many security issues. So you could use one OS using html5, and another OS with no personal data which has Flash.
 
Old 02-02-2016, 09:14 PM   #25
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OK...was this a wheezy install originally?

And if so, did you ever do a dist-upgrade isntead of just upgrade?
Yes, it was wheezy originally.

I did an 'apt-get upgrade'. I wasn't aware of a dist-upgrade.
 
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Yup, upgrade will only upgrade in place existing packages. Dist-upgrade is required so that upgrades that require new packages will install. You're install is basically wheezy with a few jessie packages installed (which is why you also have the Wheezy kernel still). With how long Jessie has been out, it MIGHT be difficult to smoothly upgrade. But here's the MOST likely way to do it that I can think of (if anyone can think of a better way, please post):

As root:
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sed -i 's/stable/oldstable/g' /etc/apt/sources.list
apt-get update
apt-get upgrade
apt-get dist-upgrade
apt-get autoclean
*reboot*
sed -i s/oldstable/stable/g' /etc/apt/sources.list
apt-get dist-upgrade
*reboot*
apt-get autoremove --purge
The --purge is optional, but will also get rid of config files for no longer needed and uninstalled software (not doing a --purge will leave the config files)

Now...I'm willing to bet this WILL break some packages and require a bit of work before it's up and running correctly. This will bring in a TON of updates, and remove quite a couple files too.

Also, read this before you start as there are some pretty big changes from wheezy to jessie that may/will cause issues.

If you CAN, it's honestly easier just to back up your system and do a fresh install of stable.

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Old 02-02-2016, 09:36 PM   #27
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I have a few questions.

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sed -i 's/stable/oldstable/g' /etc/apt/sources.list
What is this command doing?

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*reboot*
Does this mean reboot the computer?

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sed -i 's/oldstable/stable/g' /etc/apt/sources.list
apt-get dist-upgrade
What are these 2 commands doing?

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Now...I'm willing to bet this WILL break some packages and require a bit of work before it's up and running correctly.
What risks are there exactly?
Will this affect GRUB2?
 
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How about just changing User-agent to something that is acceptable to youtube?
 
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I have a few questions.



What is this command doing?
sed -i will replace words in the file inline (not creating a new file), the s tells it to look for a string, replacing stable with oldstable, g tells it to do so globally. This takes your sources back to wheezy, so we can make sure wheezy is 100 up to date BEFORE we attempt to switch to jessie.


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Does this mean reboot the computer?
Yes


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What are these 2 commands doing?
taking sources back to jessie, then updating your system to jessie


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What risks are there exactly?
Will this affect GRUB2?
There is a risk that it will break your x server, possibly break your networking setup, possibly even leave your system unbootable because of the introduction of systemd.

grub2 will be updated, but it is still the current bootloader.
 
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There is a risk that it will break your x server, possibly break your networking setup, possibly even leave your system unbootable because of the introduction of systemd.
Well, at least we have established that Iceweasel is unsupported by Youtube because my browser is not getting updated. So that resolves the problem.

I am considering using your method on a different OS which I don't often use.
However, to resolve any further problems I may encounter, do you think I should start a new thread?
 
  


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