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Old 01-27-2009, 02:45 AM   #1
Shibanee
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Lightbulb Year 70 is a learning curve!


Hi all.

New kid on the block! One prob. Router/belkin. does not register on puter? Is this only for windows(Yuk!)Can I connect wirelessly if I connect the router to my Wifes Windows xp puter? from my linux puters. Desktop/laptop.Or should one simply put in a wireless card?

Cheers!
 
Old 01-27-2009, 03:00 AM   #2
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Could you please provide more information on that with some clear points. What are you trying to do? What do you mean by router does not register on your computer? Do you want to connect to your router? Then you will need to configure network settings on your computer.
Use yast tool to configure network settings on your Suse.
If you need some other help and I was not able to guess your problem correctly then provide some more details so that guys out here can understand your problem and help you solve your problem.
 
Old 01-27-2009, 03:01 AM   #3
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Does your computer have a built in wireless device? Not sure what you mean by the "router doesn't register" on your computer. Do you know if your wireless device works.

Try entering "sudo /sbin/rcnetwork status" in the console. This will give you the status of your network devices.

One thing to determine is if your wireless device is working. If it is, authentication needs to be configured correctly before you can communicate with the router. Once you are authenticated, you probably use DHCP to get values for other settings, so next is to determine if your network configuration is OK. This part would be done for a wired NIC setting as well.

YaST2 -> Network -> Network Card is where you configure your network device.

I hope this points you in the right direction.

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Old 01-28-2009, 05:12 AM   #4
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Thumbs up As one gets even! Older!

One loses more brain cells!

Seems the router is okay! I have a wired network in place. The wireless network is a windows network,(Router is a belkin made for cable broadband.)(Disc is windows.) (I have another router in the cupboard. 54g Belkin,)( again disc is windows.) as set up before one discovered linux! I now am attempting to set the wireless network onto my laptop! Which seem straightforward, but is not! After all is done. I will need another bistro?? Linux! This was a magazine disc. Fine for learning with. I only use the Puters for Writing and building my web sites. Do not program!Do not play games or such. So as long as I have internet/wireless, and open Office. I will be fine. Will need Skype. thats about it. Otherwise I may tax my brain to much!!

Thanks to all for advice given so far.

Shibanee

(Basically means.) My Old Man in Arabic. My Wife's name for me. She is somewhat younger! and has more brain cells, but not to do with computers.

Cheers!
 
Old 01-28-2009, 05:37 AM   #5
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You are still not very clear. Can not understand clearly what your problem is.
I guess you want to connect to internet wirelessly in Linux. Ok. So you use Suse.
Did you find out if SuSe finds your wireless card? Or do you know what make it is? If not then "lspci" command will give you the complete listing of your hardware. Post the output here. The command is without the quotes.
Try "iwconfig" without quotes to see if there is any wireless network available. If your wireless card is pcmcia then "lspcmcia" command will list it. Again the command is without quotes.
If you can post the output of these commands someone here can surely help you out. If I misinterpreted you, correct me.
 
Old 01-28-2009, 05:44 AM   #6
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OK I guess your router has a disk for Windows but you hardly ever need that disk bcs to me it is a waste of memory. (puts an icon in systray and just annoys you) What you want out of router is mostly to do 2 things, one is act as a DHCP which gives you an IP address which registers your pewter on the network, and 2- to give access to the Internet (go between your home network and the Internet) that is why they call it a router really...

So basically if your wireless network card in your PC (with Linux running) is being recognized and working then all you have to do is to get an IP address from the router. You have to either give it a static IP address (which you assign but HAS to be in the same category/class as the rest of the IP addresses that the router gives) Or do the "easy" thing and let the DHCP part of router give a dynamic IP address to your PC.
Now if you have set a password on your router then you have to make sure and provide that password to your PC.(network (NIC)configuration)
If you are using an older version of a wireless with a new router the security protocols will not match therefore you cannot use that wireless card, the solution is to lower your routers method of security to an older method which may or may not be the safest thing to do!?

I assumed that your router has a built-in DHCP function on it?! I dont know? in the old days they didnt and you had to daisy chain one to it...but today most of the routers also have DHCP, built in.

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Old 01-28-2009, 07:14 AM   #7
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Hello,
First,70 is no problem at all for Linux or anything(well mostly anything)
you want to do.. I have 4 years on you and I suspect many others have years on me..So thats not an issue..

Please clearly define the problem as to what you are trying to do and also what Laptop you have..You did mention your router..
Also mention if your wireless router is encrypted and if so which method..

Then,Heed the advice of the other posters when they ask you to do a command such as lspci..If you are not familiar with a terminal then ask about that..
Basically as you give the output of the instructions from the responders request, you will get more and more requests and thats how all can help step you through your problem..It's not that hard and you can get Linux working..Although I personally suggest a later version of SuSe which would be more up to date..
Finally welcome to Linux Questions..The people here are friendly and here to help..
Goodluck,
Jolphil
 
Old 01-28-2009, 09:22 AM   #8
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Originally Posted by jolphil View Post
Hello,
First,70 is no problem at all for Linux or anything(well mostly anything)
you want to do.. I have 4 years on you and I suspect many others have years on me..So thats not an issue..

Please clearly define the problem as to what you are trying to do and also what Laptop you have..You did mention your router..
Also mention if your wireless router is encrypted and if so which method..

Then,Heed the advice of the other posters when they ask you to do a command such as lspci..If you are not familiar with a terminal then ask about that..
Basically as you give the output of the instructions from the responders request, you will get more and more requests and thats how all can help step you through your problem..It's not that hard and you can get Linux working..Although I personally suggest a later version of SuSe which would be more up to date..
Finally welcome to Linux Questions..The people here are friendly and here to help..
Goodluck,
Jolphil
This traitor has just downloaded Unbuntu.
 
Old 01-28-2009, 03:53 PM   #9
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Well thats fine...Still Goodluck to you and Enjoy Linux
jolphil
 
Old 01-29-2009, 04:05 AM   #10
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Thumbs down Thanks.

To all for help. Read my blog and know why I am in the corner with a dunces hat on!

Cheers

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Old 01-29-2009, 08:18 AM   #11
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Please don't start new threads like this.....I'm moving it to your previous thread.

You are never too old to learn---stay with it!!

Good luck
 
Old 01-29-2009, 05:09 PM   #12
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Thumbs up Apology.

I do apologise.

My Desktop. Hp Media!

Open Suse 11.1 (586) Kde release 4.9.(Has Gnome as a choice as well!)
Intel/r 3.40.
Pentium/r 3.40.
Total memory 1.9 GB.
Free swap 5.8.
GB. 300 GB hard disc.

Belkin router is not recognised as a wireless point.But wired Internet access works fine.I have Belkin 54g PCI cards. With drivers Disc, but this is likely windows drivers. Web cam Trust live does not pick up! Again disc is windows drivers!Am going to put in the PCI card and see if it picks up!Belkin wireless usb and Zoom Wireless usb do not pick up!

Linux how-ever seems to be just fine to work with. I have loaded both desktop and laptop(Ace) with KDE. All clean installs. I will not be using windows again!

Cheers

Fossil

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Old 01-29-2009, 08:01 PM   #13
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Forget about the wireless router for the time being. First determine what is the wireless device that your computer has. Some devices are recognized out of the box (some atheros based controllers). Others need firmware cut out from a windows driver (broadcom devices).

If you run yast2 -> network -> network devices, does YaST2 notice your device?
Which device is it?

For recent broadcom devices on the latest openSUSE distro, you need to install "b43-fwcutter". To make it easy to install the firmware, this package has a script "/usr/sbin/install_bcm43xx_firmware" that run as root, will download and install the firmware for you.

After you have the correct windows kernel module loaded & the firmware cut out (if needed), the next step is to configure your wireless authentication. For example, wpa-psk may be used by the router. If this is the case, you need to copy the passphrase or hex-key from the routers configuration and enter it in YaST2's wireless configuration wizard.

After Linux can authenticate with the wireless router, the normal network configuration is done. Most users use DHCP. This is configured at the same time as WPA-PSK in the YaST2 -> Network -> Network Devices wizard.

If you aren't certain on the device you have, then run "/sbin/lspci" and "/sbin/lspci -v" in the terminal. Cut and paste the results in a [ code ] ... [ /code ] block in your next post. That will provide us with more information on how you need to proceed.

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