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Old 10-24-2011, 09:38 AM   #1
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Xubuntu installation failure.


Hey.

I've recently been trying to install Xubuntu on my (admittedly awful) laptop.

The spec is something like the following:

1.9ghz P4 M processor.
1gb RAM
32mb Nividia Geforce4 460go GFX

I downloaded the Xubuntu ISO, and burned it to a CD.

I tried 'trying without installing', and it loaded seemingly well, however I found I could only get my right click to work (and even then only for a short period, and occasionally). There is, as far as I can tell, no problem with my USB mouse as it works fine on XP, and the problem persisted when using the laptop trackpad.

I also tried a proper install, however, again, only my right click worked, and the screen would freeze totally (aside from the mouse), after a few minutes.

I'm wandering if there's either something I've done totally wrong, or if my spec is just too low. Part of the reason I'm migrating to Linux is that I was told it would make more efficient use of my spec, is this true? I say this as I noticed the desktop was slow to respond, and laggy (for when I could actually get the right click to work).

Finally, would using an older version or Xubuntu, or a different distro help?

Thanks in advance,

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Also, would it have anything to do with having a hard drive that uses FAT32?
 
Old 10-24-2011, 10:00 AM   #3
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The specs for that system will work just fine with Xubuntu. I have Slackware with XFCE installed on a P4, and only 256 meg of ram, works very well, makes XP look like is very old and slow.

There are many things that may be at the root of your mouse problem. Usually it can be resolved by editing /etc/X11/xorg.conf file. Some mice are hard to detect, and the wrong driver is loaded. If you have a older PS/2 mouse, plug it in, and give it a go. If that works, then you have got the wrong definition in config file; xorg.conf.

Did you create new partition(s) for linux, and format them with a linux file system? ie not fat32 or ntfs?

Did you verify the download with a md5sum check before you burned it? Many install bugs are just bad downloads, or bad burns, or even poor quality CD's or DVD's.

Post what you did during install, and we can point you in the right direction.

buntu's use a non standard method of setting up mice... Could you open a konsole, ( a command prompt ) and run the command 'sudo lsusb' without the quotes, just what is between the quotes. This will show us what mouse you have. Then we can advise a way to fix the problem.

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Old 10-24-2011, 10:20 AM   #4
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Lol, damn. I knew this was looking deceptively easy.

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The specs for that system will work just fine with Xubuntu. I have Slackware with XFCE installed on a P4, and only 256 meg of ram, works very well, makes XP look like is very old and slow.
Good to know. So would the slowness I was experiencing be explained by the fact that I was running it from the CD?

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There are many things that may be at the root of your mouse problem. Usually it can be resolved by editing /etc/X11/xorg.conf file. Some mice are hard to detect, and the wrong driver is loaded. If you have a older PS/2 mouse, plug it in, and give it a go. If that works, then you have got the wrong definition in config file; xorg.conf.
Like I said, the problem persists on the laptop trackpad, so would that not mean that the problem isn't with the mouse itself? Also, I am a total noob. Can you tell me how I might access this file without use of the mouse?

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Did you create new partition(s) for linux, and format them with a linux file system? ie not fat32 or ntfs?
No, I didn't. In fact, I was completely unaware this was a necessary step. Could you elaborate on how I would do this?

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Post what you did during install, and we can point you in the right direction.
I wasn't able to 'do' anything. The mouse problems would only allow me to select the language with my right click, and even then it only showed the title and the 'next' and 'previous' buttons, there was no text in the actual message box.

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It would also help if you posted your xorg.conf file. You should look for a section that looks like this...



The device and protocol entries are what you probably have to edit.
Again, I'm a noob, so not really sure how I would do this, especially without a mouse.
 
Old 10-24-2011, 10:38 AM   #5
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I was experiencing be explained by the fact that I was running it from the CD?
You bet, CD drives are about 10% the speed of a HD; depending on model.

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Like I said, the problem persists on the laptop trackpad, so would that not mean that the problem isn't with the mouse itself? Also, I am a total noob. Can you tell me how I might access this file without use of the mouse?
You can hot key to a command prompt, on almost any linux version. The exact keys vary. On Slack, Ctrl + Alt + F1 will give you a command prompt; the gui is still running, Ctrl + Alt + F7 take you back to the gui. You have to log in with a user and password.

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No, I didn't. In fact, I was completely unaware this was a necessary step. Could you elaborate on how I would do this?
The installer has partitioning tools, and formatting tools build in. There are some HowTo's available on the net, try googling the words 'How to install xubuntu' you should get nice results, and well documented.
BTW, it is not absolutely necessary, but it is recommended. Why? fat32 does not support linux permissions, and this is a mechanism that will make your system much more secure than windows file systems can.

I understand your noobishness, it takes time to learn. We all went through it.

See if the three key combo gets you the command prompt, then try the command 'sudo lsusb'.
 
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Old 10-24-2011, 11:07 AM   #6
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if the three key combo gets you the command prompt, then try the command 'sudo lsusb'.
I'll try that now.

Should that fix my mouse problems? And should I do this on the 'try without installing' platform, or on the install screen?
 
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I tried the command and it was succesful in recognising my mouse down to the brand and model number, but left click still isn't functional.
 
Old 10-24-2011, 11:48 AM   #8
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The lsusb command will work on a system booted from CD "Try before you install" or after you install.

It is a list command, and it lists the devices seen on your USB adapters. It doesn't fix anything, it will just show us what device you have. Linux has many list type commands. Once we know what mouse hardware you have, then we can find out what driver, and what to edit to fix the problem. No point in fixing it until you are installed. You can fix it for a live ( uninstalled ) however, you will have to fix it again, once installed.

Just saw your response. Write down the line, exactly as shown by the command, and post it.

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Old 10-24-2011, 11:52 AM   #9
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Okay, I see what you mean. Let me find a pen and paper, lol.

I'll fix it uninstalled first so I can click during the installation. I just don't want to end up erasing XP to find I'm stuck on an alien OS with no left click. :P
 
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It gave this message:
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Bus 004 Device 002: ID 0930:0502 Toshiba Corp. Integrated Bluetooth
Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 002 Device 004: ID 06cb:0008 Synaptics, Inc. HID Device
Bus 002 Device 003: ID 1c4f:0002 SiGma Micro
Bus 002 Device 002: ID 046d:c05b Logitech, Inc.
Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
 
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Read the documentation on the Ubuntu site! That would have told you about partitions, filing systems, and so on. And did you check that your download was successful by checking its md5sum? The site tells you about that, too.

Actually Xubuntu might not be the best choice. It has the reputation for being the black sheep of the Ubuntu family: quite a few bugs. Xfce is the best user interface for you - not too demanding on the hardware and not too different to XP - but the Mint version has a better reputation.
 
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Read the documentation on the Ubuntu site! That would have told you about partitions, filing systems, and so on. And did you check that your download was successful by checking its md5sum? The site tells you about that, too.

Actually Xubuntu might not be the best choice. It has the reputation for being the black sheep of the Ubuntu family: quite a few bugs. Xfce is the best user interface for you - not too demanding on the hardware and not too different to XP - but the Mint version has a better reputation.
The partitions etc. aren't so much my problem, it's the not being able to left click. What specific distro would you recommend for my specs and level of n00bity, if not Xubuntu?
 
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Bus 002 Device 002: ID 046d:c05b Logitech, Inc.
Is this the mouse? Logitech???

Do you have a mouse pad on the system? or is this your mouse?

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Bus 002 Device 004: ID 06cb:0008 Synaptics, Inc. HID Device
 
Old 10-24-2011, 01:12 PM   #14
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Is this the mouse? Logitech???

Do you have a mouse pad on the system? or is this your mouse?
I have a Logitech USB mouse, and the trackpad on the laptop.

Left click doesn't work on either.

Last edited by 313; 10-24-2011 at 01:13 PM. Reason: re-phrase; clarity
 
Old 10-24-2011, 04:16 PM   #15
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I came across this How to -->https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lo...arblemouse_USB

This mouse may be different from yours, I don't know. However, it serves as a nice How To for editing mouse parameters on various buntu flavours.

I'm trying to find info on your USB mouse. So far, not much luck.
 
  


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