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Old 08-27-2004, 04:32 PM   #1
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Xserver fatal error that I would like NOT to happen again...


Whats up everybody. I was just using my box as usual and I tried to restart because my wife closed the system out improperly. So when I go to restart it, I wait, then the "list" scrolls by as usual, then I get some funky message about how the Xserer cannot start due to some fatal error and that their was no memory left to start it. The thing is, I have an 80 gig hd and I only had about 15 gigs total of stuff on their so I don't know what they are talking about when they said I didn't have any memory. Then to top it all off, I couldn't get here to you guys for any help because I couldn't even log into kde. That sucked, so stuck, I had to do a fresh install. I didn't lose anything important which was great, but i don't want this to happen again. Can anyone help me out as to how to avoid this problem in the future and what to do if it happens again?
 
Old 08-27-2004, 04:38 PM   #2
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I'm not sure how this will effect you but you might either want to get more RAM, and / or not use KDE. KDE is pretty bulky from what I've seen. You could try out a few other lighter window managers such as Fluxbox , or Blackbox, and Pekwm too.
 
Old 08-27-2004, 04:43 PM   #3
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You know what, your'e probably right. When I was looking at the ram usage with one of those superkaramba widgets, I noticed that the ram was always being used up. Something like 450 or higher of 512mb of ram. Geez, 512 isn't enough? Should I upgrade to 1 gig of ram?
 
Old 08-27-2004, 04:49 PM   #4
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That's a pretty drastic upgrade just to use a window manager don't you think? I mean with all honesty it might not be that much money, but if you think about it you're going to still be using half of your RAM if not more to get the most out of it. I'd think it'd be best to either do both, or... just switch window managers for the time being and see how memory is handled that way. =)
 
Old 08-27-2004, 06:28 PM   #5
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Perhaps if you provided some details about exactly what the "funky message" said or what information was included as part of the "some fatal error" text, people may be able to diagnose the underlying issue. Not to be a smart-aleck but your message more or less boils down to "My PC ran into some sort of bad problem; how can I prevent this from happening again?" which of course makes it pretty difficult to respond to.

To reiterate, the more specific details you provide the better advice people can offer. Did the system successfully boot at all? Did you get to the command line? Did you try manually bringing up the X environment by typing "startx" (no quotes)? From the sounds of it, if you've got 512Mg of RAM that is sufficient, and I wouldn't be concerned about Linux apparently using so much of it, because Linux memory management is different than Windows. Here is a good article by "sapphirecat" that describes Linux memory management in plain English. -- J.W.
 
Old 08-28-2004, 04:14 AM   #6
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Originally posted by J.W.
Perhaps if you provided some details about exactly what the "funky message" said or what information was included as part of the "some fatal error" text, people may be able to diagnose the underlying issue. Not to be a smart-aleck but your message more or less boils down to "My PC ran into some sort of bad problem; how can I prevent this from happening again?" which of course makes it pretty difficult to respond to.

To reiterate, the more specific details you provide the better advice people can offer. Did the system successfully boot at all? Did you get to the command line? Did you try manually bringing up the X environment by typing "startx" (no quotes)? From the sounds of it, if you've got 512Mg of RAM that is sufficient, and I wouldn't be concerned about Linux apparently using so much of it, because Linux memory management is different than Windows. Here is a good article by "sapphirecat" that describes Linux memory management in plain English. -- J.W.
I understand. The thing is, I didn't write the error down at all like I should have. And yes, I did get to the command line but thats it. when I tried to start kde, it kept giving me a "Fatal error 10" x server unable to start, out of sufficient ram or memory. (Sorry for the loose description, thats as much as I remember it.)
 
Old 08-28-2004, 03:19 PM   #7
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Well shoot, that's a dead end then. So long as you _can_ get to the prompt, if it happens again perhaps you can check to see what process(es) are hogging the memory. Usually the combination of the "top" and "ps -ax" commands will quickly zero in on the memory pig. See the man pages for more info on those commands.

Overall though, 512Mg of RAM is a healthy amount, and while adding more is always a bonus, I would not consider it to be the source of this issue. Good luck with it -- J.W.
 
  


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