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Old 08-26-2007, 11:00 AM   #16
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I asked about your interpreter, because it might be a logical 1st step to a compiler.

Have you designed your language yet?
 
Old 08-26-2007, 06:07 PM   #17
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When did top-posting of quotes in forums become the done thing
to do, is that just another ill effect of people using outpuke?



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Old 08-27-2007, 08:52 AM   #18
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Not designed the Interpreter

I've designed the language.. But not yet designed any interpreter or compiler..

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I asked about your interpreter, because it might be a logical 1st step to a compiler.

Have you designed your language yet?
 
Old 08-27-2007, 04:05 PM   #19
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Tink,
Is "top-posting" the same as regurgitating a complete previous post esp. the one immediately before?

I think I have posted a negative comment in one of the threads in the Feedback forum & gotten a less than positive response. To me it is just clutter that intrudes on the flow of the thread & ultimately interferes w/ my ability to help.

I wish folks who do it would stop & also that those who don't would support those who suggest that it's a bad practice. Unfortunately, there is no rule or even policy against it.

I have suggested that the ability to individually suppress "Quote:" & "Code:" blocks as well as sigs. & posts would improve the readability of the fora, but so far there has been no move to implement any of that. Not even a comment on the feasibility of my ideas.

As to why it's happening here, let me, I hope politely, ask:


raghuveerbabu,
Why are you always copying a previous post? Are you using "outpuke" (Outbreak ?), or do you think it somehow adds to the discussion? There seem to be at least 2 of us that think it's not such a good idea -- that it detracts from, not adds to, our understanding & therefore hinders our ability to help you.
 
Old 08-27-2007, 06:54 PM   #20
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Tink,
Is "top-posting" the same as regurgitating a complete previous post esp. the one immediately before?
Yep, pretty much. With the own additions being slapped
in on-top of (before?) the previous (quoted) post.

Personally I'm a big fan of the netiquette described in
http://www.american.edu/econ/notes/htmlmail.htm
that also covers quoting behaviour. Quoting interlineated,
with removal of un-necessary content is just most economic
in terms of a cost/benefit ratio (plus it's what I 'grew up'
on in FIDO net :D).


[edit]
That said: I also think that the complete omission of the
text you're referring to is bad practice, specially if the
thread is lengthy and/or its content complex. Just as bad
as TOFU, in fact
[/edit]


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Old 08-29-2007, 08:10 AM   #21
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I agree except when the post referred to is immediately preceding the referring one; at least in a forum context like LQ, where it's guaranteed to be there.

And perhaps when the the reference is obvious from the context.

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Old 09-05-2007, 02:47 PM   #22
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I agree except when the post referred to is immediately preceding the referring one; at least in a forum context like LQ, where it's guaranteed to be there.
But people often will do a non-quote post on page 5 referring to a
post on page 2 ... it's a pain in the proverbial to track that
down, and should be punishable by using windows exclusively.


And you don't really have a guarantee that your post will follow
what your responding to directly ... how often does it happen to
me that I start a response, leave the browser, come back later and
submit to find that three others have posted in between? :} Even
if you DON'T go away - someone may just be faster than you.

Quote:
And perhaps when the the reference is obvious from the context.
Again, it depends on length and complexity :}


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Old 09-05-2007, 03:00 PM   #23
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In e-mail, I ALWAYS top-post, and I appreciate it when others do the same. (I like to see the latest first). The default in e-mail is to include all previous traffic, so a short note at the bottom can get really lost.

In fora, I think the best practice is to quote only as required to keep things clear---and to quote only small amounts. Comments can go before or after the quote---whatever makes it easiest to read.
 
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In e-mail, I ALWAYS top-post, and I appreciate it when others do the same. (I like to see the latest first). The default in e-mail is to include all previous traffic, so a short note at the bottom can get really lost.
Default in what way?

As far as I'm concerned it's a choice, and I expect people to
prune their quotes down to relevant stuff. While disk-space
and internet bandwidth have dropped in price quite significantly
I still don't think that being wasteful and lazy makes for
good behaviour.

From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top-posting#Top-posting
Quote:
Code:
A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?
In a dialog it just doesn't make sense (to me, anyway) to see
the response before the question or comment that triggered it.

Even if the only thing you're interested in (or feel the urge
to contribute) ... it's NOT difficult to remove extra quoted
text, and it doesn't make the word "OK" at the top any clearer
if you attach an A4 page that you agreed to. :}


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In fora, I think the best practice is to quote only as required to keep things clear---and to quote only small amounts. Comments can go before or after the quote---whatever makes it easiest to read.:twocents:
I'm afraid you're entitled to that view. I find top-posting
repulsive and (commonly) wasteful. As the link I posted earlier
says - interleaved quoting with proper pruning makes reading
easiest.


Cheers,
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Old 09-05-2007, 03:39 PM   #25
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if you need books

As of books
for design issues you can refer the classic Aho, Ullman

For implementation issues refer Holub
 
  


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