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Old 02-08-2014, 08:20 AM   #1
Helvehammer
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Would like a one floppy dd and pipe capable distro. Thanks.


I got Kolibri, Hal91, Tomsrtbt and MenuetOS onto floppies and got them to run. Never could get a-linux and (forgot) to boot. In Debian 6.0, Parted Magic, Clonezilla, Gparted (last 3 liveCD) I can get bash to
write all ones to usb flash memory sticks to empty and
refresh them. (Yes, seems to work that way.)
I would like to boot from floppy and write:
tr '\000' '\377' < /dev/zero | dd bs=16384 of=/dev/sdb
- it writes until flash is "full"(really empty) and
when I format them in windows 7 they work great.
A) what are the four I've gotten to run missing, coreutils?
b) how do I get what I want, preferably only what I want, onto a floppy ?
 
Old 02-08-2014, 01:39 PM   #2
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please restate your post
also regarding this
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what are the four I've gotten to run missing, coreutils?
we are not mind readers and have NO IDEA what you have "gotten to run"

i do not think there is a modern linux that will fit on a 1.4 meg 3.5 in floppy
most modern linux os's do not even look for the old 3.5 in floppy drive

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Old 02-08-2014, 03:09 PM   #3
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Thumbs down Crabby and dismissive and unhelpful.

I begin by stating difficulty of balancing brevity and concision.I said I have gotten
HAL91, Tomsrtbt, MenuetOS and Kolibri to boot from their single floppies. I also said
in Debian 6.0, Gparted, Partition Magic and Clonezilla (the last three from LiveCD)
I can enter bash (that's right, isn't it? The Command Line shell is called bash, right?) and enter: tr '\000' '\377' < /dev/zero | dd bs=16384 of=/dev/sdb and it will
write all ones to my usb flash memory stick. That actually empties the stick, and after
formatting FAT32 they all run nice and fast. Hardware is a Dell 755 Intel core2duo 7400
and intel Q35 chipset. Yes it has 34 pin FD cable socket and a generic FDD.
If you think I should try it on an older computer, as an exercise in inductive
reasoning - then say so, I, repeat I, flunked mindreading in high school.
 
Old 02-10-2014, 02:48 PM   #4
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Not sure what you are doing by the way. Putting all one's or all zero's on a flash should not make any difference in speed. It could allow one to clear up a portion of the unused space on a dd operation with compression so that the resulting image would be smaller. I'd consider a file based copy maybe.


Almost all new distro's can't fit on a common floppy. You might be able to squish a 2.88 image or maybe a 1.77 image on a 1.44 disk. It would be easier if you did have a 2.88 disk. Many new floppy drives do read them. mkboootfloppy (forget the exact command) would be very minimal if it existed.

If you could consider a pxe or gpxe/ipxe network download of some OS it would be easier too. Assumes you have enough ram.

G4U would dd a disk over gzip but to correct the image wouldn't work to a lower size.

It is possible to take a very old kernel and strip it down and add in some of the support maybe. The issue on new hardware is that there are so many new devices that simply aren't in the old kernels and can't be put in easily.

Might be possible to do this in dos.

Might be possible to re-edit toms'.

Might be possible to use qnx if you had a license.

Last edited by jefro; 02-10-2014 at 02:54 PM.
 
Old 02-10-2014, 06:27 PM   #5
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Thumbs down A PLEASANT (but uninformed) REPLY

SliTaz linux, originating in France, does the job beautifully. The Grub Boot Floppy will bring up a bash shell
wherein I can dd all 1's to a usb flash memory stick. After digging in to the electronics inside one of these
marvels and CAREFULLY LISTENING to the judgement of others - I am convinced all 1's and then formatting FAT32
cures the slow mem-stick blues EVERY TIME.
Yes, it's an "old distro" -2013 WAS long ago, wasn't it?

I would send you the .img file to make this perfect little jewel, but I think it would be a waste of time.
You can delete my membership account any time - I'm not coming back. Helvehammer, 2-10-2013.
 
  


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