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Old 01-17-2008, 11:08 PM   #1
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Please.. please help!??


I started using Ubuntu yesterday,i placed it on my HD as its only Os,after using the test mode for almost a day,i loved it! still do..However i now have a major issue,i posted all ready regarding the graphics which were very small,i tried fixing that to no avail,i turned off the PC for awhile,came back several hours latter fired it up and now everytime it goes to go to the main page where you sign in the graphics go all weird,lines and unable to read?? So now i am on here using the CD in safe graphics mode,have i simply run into a matter of not having the correct drivers..My Pc is a Celeron 1ghz,with an older graphics/media card....says-Ats 127 ATECH,cobra 56k..
I attempted putting my Hard drive with Ubuntu in another PC and i am having the exact same issues,so i am left to believe it is the drivers..Or could something have gone wrong when formatting it on my HD??
Please help,i love Ubuntu! and was just starting to have fun,my luck!
Dave..ps:I noticed that when i put Ubuntu on my PC(HD) i had accidentally started it in safe graphics mode while using the test mode,could this be the issue?? or is it simply that i am missing the proper drivers??
Thanks

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Old 01-17-2008, 11:21 PM   #2
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I don't think that would be an issue. Then again, I only briefly used Ubuntu. I didn't care too much for it.

However, if it is driver-related, it would help to provide the video card's manufacturer and model.
 
Old 01-17-2008, 11:55 PM   #3
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What i can see...

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Originally Posted by LinuxCrayon View Post
I don't think that would be an issue. Then again, I only briefly used Ubuntu. I didn't care too much for it.

However, if it is driver-related, it would help to provide the video card's manufacturer and model.
..on the card is ATS 127 Atech,Cobra 56k,its a Celeron 1ghz,with a ATX CM 33 TL SKT 37O DFI Motherboard...
Why would it be working in safe mode right now but not off the HD if it was not a driver issue? Should ireinstall Ubuntu,maybe upon install being in safe graphics mode caused a problem?
Thanks
Dave
 
Old 01-18-2008, 12:02 AM   #4
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What would you suggest...

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..on the card is ATS 127 Atech,Cobra 56k,its a Celeron 1ghz,with a ATX CM 33 TL SKT 37O DFI Motherboard...
Why would it be working in safe mode right now but not off the HD if it was not a driver issue? Should ireinstall Ubuntu,maybe upon install being in safe graphics mode caused a problem?
Thanks
Dave
..that might be better than Abuntu?? I only use myPc for surfing the web,music and online schooling thats about it..Anything tailored to those apps??
Thanks
 
Old 01-18-2008, 01:46 AM   #5
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..that might be better than Abuntu?? I only use myPc for surfing the web,music and online schooling thats about it..Anything tailored to those apps??
Thanks
Now going on 24hrs and hopelessly still stuck on my graphics problem???
 
Old 01-18-2008, 01:49 AM   #6
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Would an install of another Linux...

...flavor likely solve my graphics issues?? I am into almost 24hrs of attempting to fix this and growing weary..
If i download another version will i still have these graphic issues? Is there a flavor aimed at older PCs?
Thanks
 
Old 01-18-2008, 04:09 AM   #7
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What graphics issues are you having?

To answer your question, yes, some distros work better on older hardware.

But at heart they're all pretty much the same. Switching won't guarantee anything and might only serve to confuse you further.

Let's see if we can at least try to fix your current problem first.
 
Old 01-18-2008, 04:18 AM   #8
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Thanks for replying

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What graphics issues are you having?

To answer your question, yes, some distros work better on older hardware.

But at heart they're all pretty much the same. Switching won't guarantee anything and might only serve to confuse you further.

Let's see if we can at least try to fix your current problem first.
I placed Ubuntu on my PC last night and now it gets to the page where you sign in and the graphics are all messed up,blurry and illegible..
However in live CD test mode it starts in safe graphics mode?
People on here are saying i have a driver issue,and one person told me to get an older ATI card..My pc is an older Celeron 1Ghz,512mb ram,atx cm 33 tl skt 37o dfi motherboard...I have an ATI card from another PC i can use,i see inside there are three slots, 11 12 13..does it matter where i put the card? and what might this do to fix my issue?
I have read Xbuntu is great with old pcs,im downloading it now..If you could help id appreciate it.
Thanks
D
 
Old 01-18-2008, 04:34 AM   #9
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Do you get any error messages?

Is there an .xsession-errors file in your user account? If so, what are its contents?

You can also check the /var/log/Xorg.0.log file for errors. See what you can find in there.

Error messages are very handy when troubleshooting.
 
Old 01-18-2008, 04:56 AM   #10
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This is a prime example of what I said in the other thread, we don't know what issues you are having unless we go to another thread. So asking this question in a thread where you had already posted the issues you were having would make perfect sense.

I really would like to help you and see you get the best help possible, but you seem to be going in so many different directions at the same time and it is hard to keep up.

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Old 01-18-2008, 05:11 AM   #11
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Yeah no kidding Elliot!

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This is a prime example of what I said in the other thread, we don't know what issues you are having unless we go to another thread. So asking this question in a thread where you had already posted the issues you were having would make perfect sense.

I really would like to help you and see you get the best help possible, but you seem to be going in so many different directions at the same time it is hard to keep up.
I have been going circles,tying one thing and then another,most people do not give as straight up answers as the fellow above..or they give answers that someone with a degree in programming could only understand.
I think it is equally as important when posting answers to new people that you keep in mind you are speaking to someone who is new!
I know everyone is trying to help,and i appreciate that...
I have not posted Elliot since reading your post! as i calmed down and realized what i was doing...
Thanks to everyone,and thanks Elliot for pointing out the obvious,which i could not see as this problem is p---ing me off!...I deleted everything on my hard drive including my OS(which is my fault i hate B Boy!)thinking i would be online in no time after installing Ubuntu,however here i find myself almost 30hrs latter!
I know Ubuntu is different from Windows i was expecting and looking forward to that,however i didn't expect, and was not looking forward to this!
I know that at least i am learning something, which is a very good thing,and i will not be going back to Windows,yes! i was frustrated at times and felt like simply throwing the XP disk in, however i threw it in the garbage just for safe measure ...lolNow that i am here i am never going back to the dark side!! lol
I asked in many forums,searched online and here if i would run into any problems on install,told everyone my PC specs etc etc i was unaware that Ubuntu had problems with there drivers,every single person told me to simply follow the prompts,partition and reboot,and here i write.
I understand s--t happens in life and after the smoke clears i will have learned a great deal thanks to all out here..I after all wanted Ubuntu because i like to learn and love a challenge,so after a quick recharge i will be back to battle on latter..
Goodnight or should i say good morning
Thanks to all of you for your input.
D

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Old 01-18-2008, 05:49 AM   #12
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I don't have any Trident based cards, so I can't cite any personal experience, but I did read the manpage for the driver, it does seem like a complete driver with support for most of their chips. I'm trying to pinpoint what card you have exactly, I have downloaded the motherboard manual from DFI and it said it is an onboard rCADE3D chipset, which still doesn't tell me much. After a lot more searching, I have found that it is a lightened version of the Blade3D, which is supported by the driver. So in theory, we are looking good so far.

From another post, someone says that Ubuntu's only issue is picking the wrong driver, common problem with a lot of hardware actually. All it appears you need to do is tell it which driver it should be using. This is actually very simply done by editing the '/etc/X11/xorg.conf' file, post what your current file looks like (please use the forum's code tags for cleanliness) and I should be able to tell you what to edit.

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Old 01-18-2008, 06:09 AM   #13
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Ok try this. (Disclaimer: 1. I am only trying to help you, 2. Tell me if you have tried them before)


1. Post /var/log/Xorg.0.log
2. Try Knoppix, see if it works or not.
3. Try openSuse, see if it works or not.

Tell me the result of these steps.

If you are having trouble with step 1, follow this:

Step 1.1
1. Start your computer with Ubuntu. Wait until everything is done.
2. Close your eyes.
3. Press Ctrl+Alt+2
4. Type your login name
5. Press enter
6. Type your password
7. Press enter
8. Type "startx -- :1"
9. Press enter
10. Wait while everything changes and looks almost exactly the same as the problem you are describing.
11. Press Ctrl+Alt+Backspc
12. Post .xsession-errors file created in your home directory.

If you still have problem with, try this (a very basic step, something that is not supposed to be done by newbies):

Step 1.2
1. Start your computer with Ubuntu. Wait until everything is done.
2. Close your eyes.
3. Press Ctrl+Alt+2
4. Type your login name
5. Press enter
6. Type your password
7. Press enter
8. If the prompt is readable, type xorgconfig and press enter
9. Follow through configurations. (Remember, when given a very large list of choices, use "vesa")
10. Have the information about your monitor and graphics card handy.
11. Try several combinations until everything works fine.

EDIT: Give feedback in any case. (Also, please format your post... it is very hard to read it otherwise )

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Old 01-18-2008, 07:22 AM   #14
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DAVE666;

I've just scanned a few of your posts. The first thing that comes to mind is: Don't start new threads to continue the discussion of a problem. One issue---One thread.

Second: While there are some distros that might do a better job of automatic configuration, you should be able to get the graphics running on any distro. Switching distros to solve a specific issue is seldom a good idea.

I suggest you pick ONE THREAD** that is already open and summarize what you have tried. For starters, can you specify the "vesa" driver in xorg.conf and get some level of acceptable operation? That alone will tell us a lot.

For threads that are going to be abandoned, ask a moderator to close them ("report" button)
 
Old 01-18-2008, 12:39 PM   #15
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And another two of your threads merged ... could you please
stop doing this? Just stick with one thread since it's all
apparently the same issue.


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