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Old 05-20-2004, 01:17 AM   #1
Kelvie
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Working with SuSE (a bunch of newbie questions..)


I decided to start another thread, on top of my other one.. after the more ¨fun¨ things I've found with SuSE. I had this all typed up before, but just then Linux decided to freeze.. and Ctrl-Alt-Backspace didn't work, the mouse was frozen also.

Anyways.. somehow I've managed to screw up all the keys such as ´ ¨ and `. Instead of the apostrophe, and the quote, they turned into accent marks. How can I change this back? (wait.. I just somehow changed it back.. can someone tell me what I just did? haha)

A stupider question, when I open Tux.. how can I close it?!

I just finished installing apt4rpm.. and anyways, I'm almost certain I have SuSE 9.1.. but it says I have SuSE 9.0... can someone explain for me please? I had to install it using the 9.0 rpms. The 9.1 ones said I was missing libprot.so.0 or something close to that.

On the topic of apt4rpm.. where can I go get a list of things to download, such as security updates, a newer version of gaim, nVidia drivers, etc. I was advised in the other thread that I started to stay away from YOU; I regard this as a word of wisdom, as when I upgraded using YOU previously, my printer, internet, ntfs mounting, as well as a whole slew of other things refused to work. It seems like either the kernel was messed up, or the driver didn't appreciate my nForce2 chipset very much.

Also.. I would like the games that YOU usually has, such as KBreakOut (I think), as well as other stuff from YOU.. would it be a bad idea to use YOU alltogether?

Hmm... nVidia. I have an on board Geforce4 MX GPU using shared VRAM. I went and downloaded the universal driver from nVidia.. but the problem is, it's really tricky to install. In the nVidia site, it says they recommend using YOU to install it, but on the other thread, I was advised not to.
It says, on the nVidia site, to do something with the kernel source code (which I don't have). What should I do here?

GAIM, as well as some other applications, have insanely huge fonts for the menus, text inside, etc. Where can I go change it? (It's not in the preferences, I changed the custom font face and the size, and it does nothing. In the font face, it won't let me set the font under 12pt.. I want 8 or 9) I forget which other application has large fonts, but I know that every other program is fine. I think I heard something about GTK while doing a Google search.

Hmm... this is all I can remember in one sitting, I'll post more as they come to me.. sorry for the length.

Thanks in advance !
K
 
Old 05-20-2004, 08:48 AM   #2
bruno buys
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HI, K!
Try to be more accurate on the questions. I feel like I didnt get you well, but here I go:

1. YOU is good. Go get it.
2. Nvidia drivers? Let YOU do it. Its trivial.
3. Did you try to upgrade a system from 9.0 to 9.1 using apt? It can be no good idea. Neither YOU can do it. If you wanna upgrade to 9.1, get the cds set.
4. SuSE is quite solid, provided you treat it well. Once, in my 9.0 I tried to upgrade kde to 3.2 and really messed to whole kde stuff. It couldnt even load automatically at startup.
5. T change keyboard stuff, go to kde control center. You might also try yast2 keyboard setup.
6. Apt-get complies with the info listed at sources.list, in /etc/apt/sources.list. Take a look, and google around for a nice sources.list to apt for suse.

Last edited by bruno buys; 05-20-2004 at 08:52 AM.
 
Old 05-21-2004, 04:50 AM   #3
sbogus
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Location: Germany, Munich
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Hi Kelvie,

Quote:
A stupider question, when I open Tux.. how can I close it?!
Well, If I can't find any button to close an application and there's no button on the taskbar with the application's name, where I could rightclick and choose "Close", then I'd just kill that application. In a console I'll type

ps -ax

and then I'll see the PID of that unclosable application and with the command

kill -9 <PID>

it is gone. No simpler task than that one.

Quote:
I just finished installing apt4rpm.. and anyways, I'm almost certain I have SuSE 9.1.. but it says I have SuSE 9.0... can someone explain for me please? I had to install it using the 9.0 rpms. The 9.1 ones said I was missing libprot.so.0 or something close to that.
In my opinion that's wrong. You should install the apt4rmp package for the correct SuSE version only. If it complains about missing shared library, you should then provide it and try the installation again. This library is for sure part of some package, you just don't know wich one is that. Try to find more who or wich application else uses this shared library.

One very importat point of attention: If you use apt4rpm for version 9.0, but you have version 9.1, any "upgrade" of system or critical packages will, in the best case, downgrade them, since upgrage packages for 9.0 are for that version and not for 9.1. In the worst case... well it could render your Linux installation unusable.

Quote:
On the topic of apt4rpm.. where can I go get a list of things to download, such as security updates, a newer version of gaim, nVidia drivers, etc.
On the site of apt4rpm, there're many update mirrors containing packages for update with apt. Here is the basic update list for the 9.1 version of SuSE. You can just replace the sources.list file with that one and then issue apt-get update.

For using YOU - it is just every one's personal feeling and attitude if and how to upgrade his/her system. I personaly dislike very much YOU and use apt4rpm. In my opinion YOU make just more bugs and troubles, than it probably solves.

Quote:
Hmm... nVidia. I have an on board Geforce4 MX GPU using shared VRAM. I went and downloaded the universal driver from nVidia.. but the problem is, it's really tricky to install. In the nVidia site, it says they recommend using YOU to install it, but on the other thread, I was advised not to. It says, on the nVidia site, to do something with the kernel source code (which I don't have). What should I do here?
Well, you should download the Graphics Driver for GeForce and TNT and not the universal one. The size of the package of the universal driver is only few teen kilobytes, it is just wrapper for common function on all nVidia boards, while the size of the Graphics driver is several megabytes and this is the true driver for your card.

Just go to the nVidia Downloads, select "Graphics Driver" in the first list, then "GeForce and TNT" in the second list and do not yet click in the third list, but see below the lists the notes for that driver. Pay attention of the supported cards and the chipsets. If your card is there (I think so), then click in the third list on the line Linux IA32 and then on the "Go" button to download the software. After that the installation is prety straightforward - you don't need to recompile anything!
In the instructions for installing the driver for SuSE just [/B]ignore[/B] the first step telling you to do "make cloneconfig". Do the rest two steps and you're ready to use your nVidia graphics at full power. Although there's nothing to recompile it is very good idea to have kernel sources installed. The package takes about 260 MB space, but is worth every single bit of that space! To install the kernel sources, use YaST2 and go in the "Install/Uninstall Software" section.
If your card is not among the supported ones, then you'll anyway need the kernel sources. I guess the universal driver should then be recompiled to include support for your specific card and chipset.

For the big fonts - Try to play a little bit with the system fonts. One of these is used by GTK. Also make sure you use fonts that have sizes below 12. Not every installed font has sizes below 12.

Kind regards,
sbogus
 
  


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