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Old 02-17-2010, 06:22 PM   #1
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Unhappy wireless network problem with aspire R3610 linpus linux x


i bought this computer yesterday and the wireless network isn't working. I read that a right click on the network manager icon (top right) should show a list of the available wireless networks, but for me none appear. Ive tried to manually connect to the network by putting the IP address etc, but this still doesn't work. I have been able to connect to the internet but with an ethernet cable.
the wireless card is the Atheros AR5001.
This is my first time using linux and any help would be great.
 
Old 02-17-2010, 08:05 PM   #2
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Ok here are a couple of questions for you.
1 - open up a terminal program. code: ifconfig. What do you see? Do you see anything like wlan0?
2 - what distribution are you running? I am running Ubuntu and have an AR5001 card. It has worked out of the box since Ubuntu 8.04.
3 - stupid question, but is there a switch or something else that turns off the wireless antenna? I assume the computer came with Windows on it if you just bought it. Does the wireless work under that?
 
Old 02-18-2010, 12:30 PM   #3
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1: ok when i code that a lot comes up, mainly numbers. but no wlan0. the top line seems most relevant, it says "link encap: Ethernet HWaddr". i hope thats helpful in some way.
2: The operating system is Linpus Linux X Windows 9.5. I'm not sure what card you mean, maybe the BIOS version? that's P01-A2L.
3: Ha no i spent quite a while looking but there doesn't appear to be. They're normally on laptops aren't they, mine is a desktop. the computer only came with Linux Linpus.
its obvious I'm a complete novice with this, so thanks a lot for the help.
 
Old 02-18-2010, 03:47 PM   #4
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please post the output to:
Code:
lspci # will tell us the pci devices you have in your system.
lsusb # will tell us the usb devices you have in your system.
ifconfig # will tell us what network interface cards you have on your system that are currently turned on.
ifconfig -a # will show all network interface cards you have on your system.
iwconfig # will tell us which of your network interface cards has wireless capability 
lsmod # will list modules that have been activated.

sudo ifconfig <network-card> up # will turn on your <network-card>.
sudo iwlist <network-card> scan # this will use the <network-card> interface (that from the iwconfig command above) and scan for wireless routers that are accessible.
sudo iwconfig <network-card> essid <your-router-name> # assuming no security (the access point names will be provided by the previous iwlist command).
sudo dhclient # will attempt to get ip-address, subnet mask, dns server information automatically from your router assuming dhcp is turned on on your router.
you mite need to install wireless-tools (e.g. sudo yum -y install wireless-tools) if iwconfig is not found.
it would be easier for us to read if the output is in [code] tags.

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Old 02-18-2010, 08:15 PM   #5
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Fruityflute, please execute the commands suggested by schneidz, using the sudo prefix. Save them to text files. You can do this by running the command with >> outfile.txt, where outfile.txt is the name you wish to give that file. Then if you use the advanced button on the reply, you can post the attachment.

It sounds like you have a driver or network manager issue. This is the first time I have heard of "Linpus Linux X Windows 9.5". If you find that it gives you nothing but trouble you may want to put a different distribution on your PC. You should be able to run different versions of linux safely enough. Try a main stream one, such as Ubuntu, or Red Hat as there is a lot of community support as well as good driver availability.
 
Old 02-18-2010, 08:38 PM   #6
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Try a main stream one, such as Ubuntu, or Red Hat as there is a lot of community support as well as good driver availability.
I'd keep well away from Red Hat. Best to use a free distro. Ubuntu is a good option for a newb though.

Evo2.
 
Old 04-20-2010, 08:00 AM   #7
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Hello all
Newbie here. I also bought a revo 3610, and was disappointed to see that its networks (wired and wifi) do not work out of the box. I monkied around and got the wired network enabled and working (not bad for my first day of linux). But in repeating the steps for the AR5001 to enable the wifi, I see the same error as FruityFlute.

Could you lend a hand to a novice please? How do I enable the wifi?

Here are the results you wanted....


Code:
[root@localhost ~]# ifconfig
eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 90:FB:A6:30:19:9A  
          inet addr:10.44.0.100  Bcast:10.44.0.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
          UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
          RX packets:884 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:769 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 
          RX bytes:593014 (579.1 KiB)  TX bytes:145424 (142.0 KiB)
          Interrupt:23 Base address:0x6000 

lo        Link encap:Local Loopback  
          inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
          UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
          RX packets:10 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:10 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 
          RX bytes:500 (500.0 b)  TX bytes:500 (500.0 b)

[root@localhost ~]# ifconfig -a
eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 90:FB:A6:30:19:9A  
          inet addr:10.44.0.100  Bcast:10.44.0.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
          UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
          RX packets:934 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:792 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 
          RX bytes:596680 (582.6 KiB)  TX bytes:147010 (143.5 KiB)
          Interrupt:23 Base address:0x6000 

lo        Link encap:Local Loopback  
          inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
          UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
          RX packets:10 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:10 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 
          RX bytes:500 (500.0 b)  TX bytes:500 (500.0 b)

wifi0     Link encap:UNSPEC  HWaddr C4-17-FE-1B-50-DF-88-11-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00  
          BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
          RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:511 
          RX bytes:0 (0.0 b)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 b)
          Interrupt:19 Memory:f8b80000-f8b90000 

[root@localhost ~]# cls
bash: cls: command not found
[root@localhost ~]# sudo
usage: sudo -h | -K | -k | -L | -l | -V | -v
usage: sudo [-bEHPS] [-r role] [-p prompt] [-t type] [-u username|#uid]
            [VAR=value] {-i | -s | <command>}
usage: sudo -e [-S] [-p prompt] [-u username|#uid] file ...
[root@localhost ~]# sudo iwconfig
iwconfig: error while loading shared libraries: libiw.so.28: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[root@localhost ~]# sudo ifconfig
eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 90:FB:A6:30:19:9A  
          inet addr:10.44.0.100  Bcast:10.44.0.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
          UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
          RX packets:970 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:795 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 
          RX bytes:600262 (586.1 KiB)  TX bytes:147214 (143.7 KiB)
          Interrupt:23 Base address:0x6000 

lo        Link encap:Local Loopback  
          inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
          UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
          RX packets:10 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:10 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 
          RX bytes:500 (500.0 b)  TX bytes:500 (500.0 b)

[root@localhost ~]# sudo ifconfig -a
eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 90:FB:A6:30:19:9A  
          inet addr:10.44.0.100  Bcast:10.44.0.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
          UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
          RX packets:971 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:795 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 
          RX bytes:600322 (586.2 KiB)  TX bytes:147214 (143.7 KiB)
          Interrupt:23 Base address:0x6000 

lo        Link encap:Local Loopback  
          inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
          UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
          RX packets:10 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:10 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 
          RX bytes:500 (500.0 b)  TX bytes:500 (500.0 b)

wifi0     Link encap:UNSPEC  HWaddr C4-17-FE-1B-50-DF-A8-90-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00  
          BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
          RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:511 
          RX bytes:0 (0.0 b)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 b)
          Interrupt:19 Memory:f8b80000-f8b90000 

[root@localhost ~]# sudo iwlist
iwlist: error while loading shared libraries: libiw.so.28: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[root@localhost ~]# sudo iwlist wifi0 scan
iwlist: error while loading shared libraries: libiw.so.28: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[root@localhost ~]# sudo iwconfig
iwconfig: error while loading shared libraries: libiw.so.28: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[root@localhost ~]# sudo yum -y install wireless-tools
sed: can't read /var/cache/online-updater/msg.pool: No such file or directory
linpus-updates                                           | 2.0 kB     00:00    
linpus-updates/primary_db                                | 2.8 kB     00:00    
Setting up Install Process
Parsing package install arguments
Package 1:wireless-tools-29-2.lp.i386 installed and not available
Nothing to do
[root@localhost ~]# 
[root@localhost ~]#

One more thing, the DHCPD daemon is mucking around. It will not start, and gives the oh-so-helpful error message "FAILED" (am I back on Win98?!) when I try to start it.

Last edited by dc197; 04-20-2010 at 08:14 AM. Reason: Forgot about DHCP client
 
Old 04-20-2010, 09:26 AM   #8
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i have a revo 3610 as well. if you do an lspci you could find out the manufacturer of your wifi card. i think it is made by ralink and the linux drivers are on their website:
http://www.ralinktech.com/support.php?s=2

for some reason i had to copy some parameters file to someplace like /etc/Wireless/RT3090STE/rt3090ste.conf becasue the driver wont load without it.

your iwlist and yum errors seems unrelated.

Last edited by schneidz; 04-20-2010 at 09:28 AM.
 
Old 05-19-2010, 03:41 AM   #9
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help - no wifi working on Acer Revo with Linpus Linux

Hi, I'm a novice on Linux, a friend just bought an Acer Revo with Linpus - wired internet works fine but not wifi. Nothing. It doesn't pick up any networks at all.
Looking at previous threads, you had a similar problem-did you manage to fix it?
Any help much appreciated!



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Originally Posted by fruityflute View Post
i bought this computer yesterday and the wireless network isn't working. I read that a right click on the network manager icon (top right) should show a list of the available wireless networks, but for me none appear. Ive tried to manually connect to the network by putting the IP address etc, but this still doesn't work. I have been able to connect to the internet but with an ethernet cable.
the wireless card is the Atheros AR5001.
This is my first time using linux and any help would be great.
 
Old 05-20-2010, 04:31 AM   #10
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Hi all
It seems that Linpus simply doesn't support wifi on the revo. I don't think there's anything you can do about it.
I "fixed" it by putting Ubuntu on it.
DC
 
Old 05-20-2010, 05:30 AM   #11
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iwlist: error while loading shared libraries: libiw.so.28: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[root@localhost ~]# sudo iwlist wifi0 scan
This may have been your problem. Apparently you are/were missing a package with this library. You appear to have been close because you had a wifi adapter with a MAC address recognized. If you had been able to get the wireless tools to work and possibly update your network manager (wicd seems to be a good choice for systems that don't inherently support wireless), you may have been good to go. Thankfully it worked when you upgraded to Ubuntu. While a format and re-install is not necessarily the approach the "Linux Philosophy" suggests, you are probably better off overall with Ubuntu with regards to support.

On a personal note, last weekend I bought an Acer 523h, one of their little "netbooks". I downloaded the Ubuntu Lucid image iso and made it into a bootable USB stick with usb-creator-gtk. I first tried it with the USB stick and then just yesterday did a full install. Works like a champ and wireless worked out of the box.
 
Old 05-21-2010, 03:05 AM   #12
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While a format and re-install is not necessarily the approach the "Linux Philosophy" suggests...
Hi Noway
Thanks for looking at the issue.

Regarding the Linux philosophy, I remain to be convinced that it's any good at all. I first became interested in Linux, using Mandrake, many years ago, convinced that it would be the cure to Windows' many crashes. However I was disappointed then with just how unstable it was. Now, using XMBC on Ubuntu minimal, I see more crashes in a few hours of playing media than I do in six months permanent uptime of my office Vista machine. So I am still unconvinced by the stability. Let's look at the next bugbear, its usability.
I am a smart guy, masters-degree educated, and an IT professional. I know quite a bit about computers. Yet configuring Linux daunts me. Too much is command-line based or based around bizarre structures in text files. It's very hard to start learning when even the most simple things require knowledge of some 2- or 3-character commands.
How hard is it to GUI things up a bit? How hard is it to add some basic features like automatically mounting a USB stick upon insertion? Nope, my Jaunty minimal can't do it, and I have to mess around with the file fstab.


In conclusion, I saved myself maybe 80 pounds in choosing the Linux Revo over the Win7 one. I have spent maybe 15 hours installing and reinstalling to get to (almost) what I want. Fifteen hours of my free time is worth more than 80 pounds these days. I wish I'd bought Windows.

-DC
 
  


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