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Old 12-16-2003, 04:43 PM   #1
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Talking WinXP Pro / Mandrake 9.2 Dual Boot


I'm interested in setting up a dual boot with mandrake 9.2 and my current installation of xp pro. Anyhow I stumbled across these forums and I figured this would be the perfect place to ask some questions.

I've used and installed linux before in the past so I do have a familiarity with it. Although I still do not know as much about linux as I do windows. I guess one of my first questions is: Is it possible to get linux to see drives using the NTFS file system, or is it capable?

Here is how my system is set up. I have two 40 gig hard drives, at the moment my OS (XP Pro) is has it's own drive all to it self. Then I have my second hard drive set up with two partitions, a small 2 gig partition for my windows page file and the rest is being used as storage. Although I resized a 10gig chunk of my documents drive for a possible linux install. Although I'm not sure if I should put the linux install on my primary hard drive or not.

Anyhow, if someone could maybe point me in the direction of a guide that would aid me in getting a dual boot setup such as this to run properly it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for your time.
 
Old 12-16-2003, 04:55 PM   #2
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Welcome to LQ.

You can read NTFS drives however write support isn't stable yet so I would reccomend setting up a fat32/vfat partition if you want to move files between OSs.

You can put your install on any drive however I would reccomend puting your linux disk as the master so that the Windows XP bootloader is unaffected and you can simply swap the drives over again if you only want to boot windows (linux bootloaders will give you the option to boot both OSs).

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Old 12-16-2003, 05:00 PM   #3
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it's not too hard to dual boot Linux and windows as long as you install windows first.

the only thing that you would need to worry about during the install is making sure to use your unpartitioned (that you freed up when you resized your documents partition) space for the linux partitions. so, during the redhat install, all you need to do is select "use free (unpartitioned) space on my hard drive" when it asks where you would like to install.

redhat 9 will automatically set up grub (the bootloader) so that you can select either linux or windows on boot (easy dual booting).

yes, linux can read ntfs formatted partitions, but on redhat systems you need to download and install an extra package http://linux-ntfs.sourceforge.net/rpm/redhat9.html after installation is finished.

Linux Mandrake suports and mounts ntfs partitions automatically out of the box fyi. get ver 9.2 if you can.

good luck.
 
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Welcome to LQ.

You can read NTFS drives however write support isn't stable yet so I would reccomend setting up a fat32/vfat partition if you want to move files between OSs.

You can put your install on any drive however I would reccomend puting your linux disk as the master so that the Windows XP bootloader is unaffected and you can simply swap the drives over again if you only want to boot windows (linux bootloaders will give you the option to boot both OSs).

For a full howto see:
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Humm, so would it be a good idea to just put my linux install on the same drive as my xp install then (The master drive). Then maybe I could just use that extra partition on my secondary drive as the fat32 drive.
 
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redhat 9 will automatically set up grub (the bootloader) so that you can select either linux or windows on boot (easy dual booting).
Ahhh, will mandrake do the same thing? Also, if I did set the linux install up on on a slave drive rather than the master would I have to change any BIOS settings so that it would use the linux bootloader? Or do you think just setting it up on the master drive would be a better idea.

<-- Hasn't read through the link david_ross gave me yet.
 
Old 12-16-2003, 05:06 PM   #6
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Humm, so would it be a good idea to just put my linux install on the same drive as my xp install then (The master drive). Then maybe I could just use that extra partition on my secondary drive as the fat32 drive.
No necesarily, I would just make the XP disk the slave.
 
Old 12-16-2003, 05:07 PM   #7
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the redhat install will overwrite the bootloader (MBR) on your primary master ide drive. if you want to save your MBR in case of a cataclysmic failure, follow david_ross's suggestion and set your winxp drive as primary slave or secondary master/slave and your other (call it Linux) drive as the primary master. you need unpartitioned space somewhere to install Linux. so if ur winxp drive is full, you will need to install Linux on the unpartitioned space on your other drive.

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Old 12-16-2003, 05:08 PM   #8
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yes, Mandrake will also automatically set up the bootloader to dual boot in the same manner that redhat does. good luck.
 
Old 12-16-2003, 05:13 PM   #9
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Well I got about an hour before the last mandrake CD is done downloading, so in the meantime I will do some reading.

Now I know it is going to sound like I am repeating my self, but I shouldn't have any problems if my XP and linux install are both on the master drive right? Because I have over 20 gigs of space I can resize and create a new partition out of, and I'd rather avoid getting into my case and changing my jumpers.
 
Old 12-16-2003, 05:19 PM   #10
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There is no problem. And there is no problem if you install on your slave drive either except that either way you will lose your XP boot record. Both systems will still boot but will be dependant on the linux bootloader.
 
Old 12-16-2003, 05:25 PM   #11
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Ahh now I see what you're saying, hehe. So if I install linux on my documents drive and set it as master I won't lose my XP boot record, which would make it easier to just go back to using only XP I suppose.
 
Old 12-16-2003, 05:33 PM   #12
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Yes that about sums it up. In addition you could remove XP completely and still have linux without any software configuration change.

Either way you can repair the XP boot record or change your linux bootloader config so don't worry about it.
 
Old 12-16-2003, 10:43 PM   #13
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Humm, ok linux refuses to run on my machine for some reason. How can I make it so it boots straight into windows again without using the linux bootloader.

Edit: Never mind I figured it out.

Although the reason I gave up is because every time I'd try to start X I'd get this error.

Fatal server error:
No screens found

XIO: Fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X Server ":0.0"
After 0 request (0 Known processed) with 0 events remaining.

I think it may have had to do with my Radeon 9800 display drivers or something, the only problem is that I'm still quite the linux noob and I could not figure out how to install them from the command prompt. So I got frustrated and killed it, hehe.

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Old 12-17-2003, 04:26 PM   #14
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you gave up to easily. you probably selected an x screen resolution or bpp that your monitor cannot handle during installation.

you could also have easily set up the bootloader to load windows by default. did you use the winxp repair function to replace the bootloader?
 
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you gave up to easily. you probably selected an x screen resolution or bpp that your monitor cannot handle during installation.

you could also have easily set up the bootloader to load windows by default. did you use the winxp repair function to replace the bootloader?
My monitor can handle above 1600 by 1200, I usually run it at 1280 by 1024. See the problem is that I wasn't even able to configure X. It just never asked me. I don't know maybe if I get bored enough I'll screw around with it tonight. Also, seeing as I'm a total noob, what driver should I use on this page if I'm using mandrake 9.2?
 
  


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