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Old 04-26-2003, 11:12 PM   #1
MatthewTux
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Exclamation WinXP and Linux? Read this!


Thought I'd share my experience running Windows XP and Linux, as it could be useful to newbies.
After installing Windows XP (Home ed) I installed Mandrake Linux 9. Mandrake repartitioned the drive to make space for Linux and the installation went flawlessly. For many months Windows and Linux coexisted happily and I had a lot of fun with Linux.
After a game demo installation froze Windows, I got some interesting disk errors in the Windows partition and even more interestinly, Windows could not fix them. I scheduled a disk scan on startup and restarted Windows, and got an message that 'RAW' drives were not supported. I'm gussing that the 'RAW' drive was the Linux partition - it seems that Windows expects to be the only OS on the drive (or the first OS on the drive, I think Linux had installed itself before Windows). I had more freezes and problems with Windows, and eventually my PC crashed entirely, displaying several lines of '99' on boot and then halting.
So I had to reformat and lost ~4GB of data (which fortunately I have mostly backed-up).
Not keen to experience a similar disaster, my hard drive now has WiXP only installed and I would strongly caution folks dualbooting Linux with WinXP and anybody considering dualbooting WinXP with Linux... if you had a copy of Win98 (or earlier versions which seem better for dualbooting) I would suggest using that instead of WinXP. WinXP seems (deliberately?) multiboot unfriendly!
 
Old 04-26-2003, 11:42 PM   #2
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and eventually my PC crashed entirely, displaying several lines of '99' on boot and then halting.
I would just like to point out that this is one of the reasons I decided to try linux in the first place, because on about every 20th restart, it would do this (and a few other things as well).

I dual booted for a few months without a hitch, but eventually I realized that I hadn't actually booted into Windows for anything since I installed Mandrake, so I just formatted the partition and re-gained some space
 
Old 04-26-2003, 11:45 PM   #3
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I have had WinXP Home and various distros dual booted on 2 machines for over a year now w/o problems.

Dont listen to him. Dual booting is fine. The only thing you change when dual booting is the Master Boot Record, which just dictates where and what OSs are on the machine. And if you screw that up, its easy to restore from a Windows or Linux Disc.



One problem this person might have is that when he resized his windows partition, he could have deleted some system files. Resizing partitions is always risky, no matter how good the program. He probobly didnt defrag and scandisk before he did it.
 
Old 04-27-2003, 02:05 AM   #4
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I agree i've been running windows xp and aother distros for quite some time now and i encountered no problems, I'm currently dual booting XP and Red Hat 9
 
Old 04-27-2003, 02:06 AM   #5
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I would not recommend ignoring MatthewTux, but use his experience as a special note for Windows XP users.

I prefer people to buy another hard drive for LINUX if they still want Windows XP on their system.

Always, Windows games has pathetic code, so they may screw the computer every now and then.

MatthewTux, I recommend you create a seperate partition to store all your data. Then let windows install all your applications in its C drive. When Windows screws up, you can format the C drive without losing your data.
 
Old 04-27-2003, 04:12 AM   #6
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The major cause is because you partitioned and installed Linux on a Logical Drive instead of a Primary Partition. It drives Windows absolutely bonkers.
 
Old 04-27-2003, 04:15 AM   #7
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MatthewTux, I recommend you create a seperate partition to store all your data. Then let windows install all your applications in its C drive. When Windows screws up, you can format the C drive without losing your data.
That's excellent advice whether you run Linux or not.
 
Old 04-27-2003, 06:35 AM   #8
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Re: WinXP and Linux? Read this!

[QUOTE]Originally posted by MatthewTux
I'm gussing that the 'RAW' drive was the Linux partition - it seems that Windows expects to be the only OS on the drive (or the first OS on the drive, I think Linux had installed itself before Windows).


If you are dual booting windows and linux, keep windows on the first partition, things will be alot better that way...

 
Old 04-27-2003, 10:27 AM   #9
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jt1020 is correct.

I have been dual booting XP and mandrake (well, I also tried SuSE but didn't like it) without any snags whatsoever.

I should point out that most of the advice does seem to say that it's one of those petty minded things, that any M$ $0ftware dual booted on a single drive should be put in the first partition.

In fact, when I recently installed a new hard disc, (what I know about linux of any flavour can be written on the back of a very small postage stamp) I automatically installed the winXP first, but that could be connected to the fact that I don't know how to install partition magic except under wind0w$. I followed the PM8 instructions and split my disc up and my mandrake install went straight in.

Keep at it!

regards

John
 
Old 05-03-2003, 03:00 AM   #10
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heh.. if my only WinXP CD wasn't an annoying Acer restore CD (which wipes the entire drive, creates a single partition and loads an image of WinXP) I would be continuing to use Linux now if my partitioning options werent so limited! thanks for the tips and help all
btw contrasutra, I DID defrag/scandisk (and backup) before installing Linux. In fact, mandrake wont repartition the drive until you have done these steps ...
 
Old 05-03-2003, 07:36 AM   #11
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I'm dual-booting WinXP Pro and RH9... No problems here either... But I am thinking about repartitioning, but have to move all my music over to the Linux partition first... It's about 40 gigs of data... I'm debating whether I should just buy a new drive for the music by itself. *smiles*
 
Old 05-03-2003, 04:51 PM   #12
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The best solution I've found is to install WinXP and RHL on different hard drives, with this layout:
-Win on the master drive
-Linux on the slave

It works fine for me that way...
 
Old 05-03-2003, 05:13 PM   #13
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I would have done this if I had some extra hard drives *budget tech*
 
Old 05-04-2003, 08:03 AM   #14
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HDs don't cost much these days...
 
Old 05-04-2003, 01:28 PM   #15
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I am using a multi-boot configuration, WinXP on hde1, mdk9.1 on hdh1
libranet 2.0 on hdh2. hdh3 is blank ext2. hdg is all for storage. With these three drives on a Promise TX-100 ata controller and my CD-rom, and CD-RW drives on masters of the IDE controller.
With this config. I use separate boot disks to start each nix system and M$ on the MBR.
I lose nothing, don't crash, and one doesnot conflict with the other.
As for multi/dual boots, there is an interesting article that a friend sent to me in this weeks PCmag titled
" Dual boot after the fact" might be helpful.
 
  


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